A note to all the GHB users.

[Immortal Juicer]

It seems lately there have been alot of threads regarding questions about GHB. This is an anabolic bodybuilding board and GHB certainly has a place here. It is probably one of the most popular yet controversial anabolic "supplements" ever. There is plenty of info in the archives. I just want to remind everyone or make them aware...

GHB is a schedule I drug.

That means getting busted with G will get you into a world of shit fast! Penalty of posession or sale of G can be as severe as that of heroin, ecstacy, or LSD, more severe than cocaine (ScheduleII), and much more severe than Ketamine or AAS(Schedule III).

As fucked up as it may be, those are the laws. With all the bullshit in the media, getting caught with 4 oz. of G will land you in the newspaper as being in posession of 30 servings of the date rape drug.

From a legal/land your ass in prison/trash your reputation perspective, AAS aint shit compared to GHB.

 

[Jersey Freak]

I agree!!!!!

Bro, you couldnt have said it better. It has WORSE legal statues (sp) than crack, heroin and coke. There was a dude from another board that got busted with a few ounces of G and i think he got 2 years in prison and a $5000 fine. I was addicted to that shit, thank GOD i'm not anymore.

 

[aaron10121]

IN MY OPINION, PURE BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! but yep, ur right.. will get in much much more trouble if u were to be caught with g than be caught with a few vials of sustanon!!! but i guess in a way it can be looked at as a smart thing to do, when people use it the wrong way. so i cant really argue with it..it really can obviously be used as a date rape drug.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

I guess their rational for making it more severe legal wise than for ex crack or cocaine is that it's so rampantly abused today by predominantly ppl in the 18-25 age bracket.

 

[karde]

Seems to be a pretty harsh punishment for it.

 

[1Mistake]

Its all politics-they wanted it out because Phizer and another company plan to release a GHB pill for sleep disorders. The gov. hates competition

J

 

[Riker29]

It seems lately there have been alot of threads regarding questions about GHB. This is an anabolic bodybuilding board and GHB certainly has a place here. ...........

No it doesn't IMHO.

I love these guys that show up and in like 3 weeks they are saying "what belongs here".

Is it an AS? No? Then it does NOT belong here. Period.

Sure, losers will whine about how they use it for BBng purposes but thats a freegin excuse and most guys here know it. They are using it recreationally. And that is NOT what this board is about.

So, please, spend some time here for a while before you show up and say "what belongs here".

 

[orca]

It does belong here *anything related to bodybuilding*.

Good post, im pro GHB but it is definatly good to let people know of the legal reprocutions.

ORCA

 

[Fonz]

Actually, I believe in the next year or so, GHB
is going to be de-classified into the same category as
steroids, because as somebody already mentioned
a gant pharmaceutical firm is coming out with
a drug 99.9% similiar to GHB in order to treat
insomnia, alcohol withdrawal, etc...

As you probably all know, I'm Pro-GHB. Why?

Because I'd rather see a BB'er enjoy himself on GHB
than alcohol.

Pretty simple really,

Its kind of funny in a way, alcohol kill/maims/hurts
literally MILLIONS of people a year but its not scheduled....LOL
Same as cigarettes. Yet, the govt. choses to ban GHB when
it had been in use SAFELY for literally 40 years in Europe.


Oh, AND IT WASN'T BANNED FOR ITS "EUPHORIC"
EFFECTS. IT WAS BANNED BECAUSE SOME IDIOTS WERE
USING IT AS A DATE-RAPE DRUG.

As somebody alreay said: Its all about politics.

And to boot, GHB IS NATURALLY OCCURRING, so it should
have been protected by the HATCH ACT, yet it wasn't.
Yet another example of govt. interference.

AND PLEASE, no more GHB threads unless you have something
SCIENTIFIC TO SAY ABOUT IT.
Either Pro or Con.
When it comes to scientific data, I'm non-biased.

Fonz

 

[Audio8]

Seems to be a pretty harsh punishment for it.

No it's not harsh when you think how many guys use that shit to rape women. I think it's in it's right place as it is. Fuck rapists. Their the lowest forms of life.

 

[Par Deus]

I am almost 100% certain that the original law that made it schedule I ended about six months ago, and it is now schedule III.

There was quite a bit of talk about it on the GHB usenet group.

Don't take this as legal advice, but someone might want to look into the matter.

ParDeus
Big Motherfucker bodybuilding magazine
Issue #3 now on-line.
http://www.avantlabs.com/issue3/big_mfr_issue_3.htm

 

[karde]

how often has alchohol been used in rape?

 

[nbk]

karde hit a good one... alcohol has been used as a rape drug for a long long time!

4 all i know politics and drugs just don´t mix!

i read some legal shit in spanish law that basically said the aimed towards banning everything that enhanced physical performance!

stimulants, anbolics, and other shit that´s supposed to be good.

ghb in spain is being introduced to the media now as a rape drug, and i have heard some bs about people getin high on it (the call it extasis liquido--my arse)

 

[Daeo]

Re: Re: A note to all the GHB users.

No it doesn't IMHO.

I love these guys that show up and in like 3 weeks they are saying "what belongs here".

Is it an AS? No? Then it does NOT belong here. Period.

Sure, losers will whine about how they use it for BBng purposes but thats a freegin excuse and most guys here know it. They are using it recreationally. And that is NOT what this board is about.

So, please, spend some time here for a while before you show up and say "what belongs here".

Sorry Riker. I agree with most of which you have to say. But not this. There are alot of substances talked about on this board which are not classified as AS, but are relevant. Clenbuterol, ephedrine, yohimbine, DNP, synthol, T3, clomid, etc...

Some people while on a cycle would like to relax and get a buzz. While on a cycle cosuming alcohol would be counterproductive. GHB provides the perfect alternative to alcohol in my opinion. So in my opinion everything here doesn't have to be a topic about AS, as long as it relates to bodybuilding and choosing the best options to better your body...

 

[Hoover]

I am for GHB. I do not drink, thus GHB is my choice for a recreational drug. If you are against GHB, then simply ignore the posts pertaining to GHB? Why read them and write a long ass story about how bad it is and how you are against it. Simply ignore it.

 

[Audio8]

how often has alchohol been used in rape?

Good point, but just think, it only takes 2 tablespoons to knock you out on ghb, where with alchohol, you have to willingly drink a lot of it to impare your judgement. It's not like you can slip someone a few beers. Drinking alchohol is voluntary, whereas ghb CAN be abused without knowledge. Plus, the shit is so damn addictive. I still think it's in it's right place, if it's still in it's right place.

 

[DRAGO]

If it ain't G, it ain't me. If you look at it, G is the best thing for you. Couple of caps and you are Mr. Happy. It doesnt make you an asshole(like alcohol). You dont stumble around like a slob. Your breath doesnt smell like shit. You have absolutely no hangover. Your workouts dont suffer from using it. It promotes good sleep. What else could a bodybuilder want??? G gets a bad name because of the few out there using it for date rape, and those who abuse it and end up jibbin and/or puking. But hey, i see way more alcohol abuse out there then G abuse. I see way more drunk drivers killing people, raping people, abusing their families, ruining their relationships and their lives. Believe me, G is the last drug that should be worried about. The responsible user is at no risk at all.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

ok...

No it doesn't IMHO.

I love these guys that show up and in like 3 weeks they are saying "what belongs here".

Is it an AS? No? Then it does NOT belong here. Period.

Sure, losers will whine about how they use it for BBng purposes but thats a freegin excuse and most guys here know it. They are using it recreationally. And that is NOT what this board is about.

So, please, spend some time here for a while before you show up and say "what belongs here".

That pisses me off.

This is an anabolic discussion board, not an anabolic androgenic steroid discussion board. Bodybuilding is about discipline and dedication to improving yourself. It is about training, diet and an overall anabolic lifestyle. Drugs are simply an effective, yet complicated tool. GHB can be used to improve recovery and it can be used as a substitute for alcohol, which as most of us know, is much worse for you than G. To say that GHB has no place on this board is ignorant.

Its what you say thats important, not how many times you say it. Post counts dont mean shit.



On another note, yeah pretty much everyone here knows that the laws against G are total bullshit and hypocrisy (sp?), but it doesnt matter how much you bitch or how right you are if you are yelling from inside a cell. Those are the laws and until they change, be aware of them.

The main reason GHB is illegal and has such a bad rap isnt because of the date rape issue, its because of how ugly it is when someone G's out. Especially if it happens in public, anyone who has witnessed someone get carried out of a club to an ambulance infront of hundreds of people can attest that it is not a pretty sight. If I didnt know anything about GHB and saw some guy passed out, vomiting and convulsing I would think it was the anti-christ as well.

Just be careful, bros.

 

[Par Deus]

For those interested in its uses for bodybuilders, backed by scientific data, read my article. The first half is just the basic neurochemistry and such, the second half gets into its effects on one's efforts to improve body composition.

It DOES indeed have its uses.

http://www.avantlabs.com/big_mfr_issue_2.htm

ParDeus
Big Motherfucker bodybuilding magazine
Issue #3 now on-line.
http://www.avantlabs.com/issue3/big_mfr_issue_3.htm