A message to anti-war protesters

[t3c]

Protesting against the war NOW will not make our troops come home. Might as well support them since they are there. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a lot of things the bush administration has to say about this war, and I definately believe in peoples rights to voice their opinions. But how do you think these guys feel like when people are protesting now.

 

[manny78]

Protesting against the war NOW will not make our troops come home. Might as well support them since they are there. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a lot of things the bush administration has to say about this war, and I definately believe in peoples rights to voice their opinions. But how do you think these guys feel like when people are protesting now.

Seriously, a good solider could care less about protestors. Do you think the DEA gets all screwed up when they read about how much you hate them ?

 

[SUST-MAN]

I agree...

I am ANTI-WAR....

BUT THERE IS NO ANTI-WAR!!! We are in the middle of it and we are not turning back unless there are HEAVY HEAVY US Casualties.

Right now, the only question is....PRO TROOPS or ANTI-TROOPS.....

Anyone who is ANTI-TROOPS should be deported. I dont care how anti-war you are...We live in a democracy....we are all in this together....END OF STORY.

 

[The Ranger]

I must agree, anti-war is your God given right, and to protest against such a war is perfectly fine by me....However, we still need to support our troops, both men and women....To place such signs as hoping our guys get killed and such....heh heh heh....wish they lived closer to me....

Ranger

 

[danielson]

I must agree, anti-war is your God given right, and to protest against such a war is perfectly fine by me....However, we still need to support our troops, both men and women....To place such signs as hoping our guys get killed and such....heh heh heh....wish they lived closer to me....

Ranger

agreed. i'd love to be next to someone on a march with a sign like that

 

[2Thick]

Protesting against the war NOW will not make our troops come home. Might as well support them since they are there. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a lot of things the bush administration has to say about this war, and I definately believe in peoples rights to voice their opinions. But how do you think these guys feel like when people are protesting now.

Have you ever heard of a little thing called VIETNAM??

If not, then that explains your useless post.

 

[musclebrains]

The peace movement isn't just about the invasion of Iraq. It's also concerned with what happens to Iraq after Hussein is ousted, the rumored plan to intervene in other Arab countries and our nation's new policy of pre-emption. It is an international movement.

I doubt that the average soldier takes it personally that most of the world opposes our agenda in Iraq. I thought soldiers were meant to follow orders and they suspended their personal politics. What I find most annoying about the peace movement is its failure to suggest that Hussein resign, that the Iraqis surrender to avoid more violence.

 

[Hollywood131]

Protesting against the war NOW will not make our troops come home. Might as well support them since they are there. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a lot of things the bush administration has to say about this war, and I definately believe in peoples rights to voice their opinions. But how do you think these guys feel like when people are protesting now.

Some people have the opinion that now that the war has commenced that it is no longer appropriate to protest it. A concern has even been voiced about the potential impact of such protests on the moral of the troops. The common theme is that it is all right to be against the war, but one should still support the troops.

If someone is against violence and war, would it be logical to expect them to support the very people taking part in it? Would it not be hypocritical for an individual who is against killing to be in the background as a cheerleader for the very people doing it?

And in terms of troop moral, why should the responsibility for that fall upon the shoulders of the protestors? They are not the ones that sent the troops into war. I would suggest that the onus for that fall on the shoulders of the people who did.

 

[CanadianCripple]

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Seriously, a good solider could care less about protestors. Do you think the DEA gets all screwed up when they read about how much you hate them ?

To use 2Thick's statement:

"Have you ever heard of a little thing called VIETNAM??

If not, then that explains your useless post."

It's "could NOT care less", BTW.

 

[CanadianCripple]

Re: Re: A message to anti-war protesters

Have you ever heard of a little thing called VIETNAM??

If not, then that explains your useless post.

You know that it took 3 years for public opinion to turn against the war in Vietnam, right?

Hardly a comparable situation, considering the coalition's success so far. The US also came into Vietnam after the war had been raging for years beforehand. They took on a war which was already a mess.

 

[2Thick]

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You know that it took 3 years for public opinion to turn against the war in Vietnam, right?

Hardly a comparable situation, considering the coalition's success so far. The US also came into Vietnam after the war had been raging for years beforehand. They took on a war which was already a mess.

Vietnam was about to end under the JFK adminsitration when he suddenly was shot and LBJ took over. Then LBJ allowed it to rage on until Nixon's paranoid ass took over and fucked it up even more.

In October 1972, U.S. president Richard Nixon agreed to sign a peace treaty, then reneged and ordered a massive bombing of North Vietnam at Christmas. Although the Paris Peace Accords were signed in January 1973, the war dragged on until the Republic of Vietnam collapsed in April 1975.

It was a Republican president that continued it and the only thing that stopped it was the protests.

It began to end when the truth came out.

In this situation, the truth is already out there...hence the protests.

 

[louden_swain]

Re: Re: A message to anti-war protesters

Have you ever heard of a little thing called VIETNAM??

If not, then that explains your useless post.

Looks like the marijuana has affected your brain capacity. Your post is totally worthless because Vietnam has absolutely no relation or relevance to the crisis in Iraq. There is nothing even remotely similar about these two political struggles. We are talking nearly 30 years between these two conflicts. Advances in war tactics, military equipment and weaponry, precision, and trong support from the administration and Allies are characteristics that will not allow this to become a Vietnam. I don't see how this is possible.

By the way, the majortiy of all Americans support this war. Besides, a number of Allies have jumped on board with the US because they finally figured out what is really going on. . . mass genocide, lying, and destruction of the social integrity of the Iraqi people.

Like Bush said, there is nothing that will stand in the way that will prevent the war. . .what part of this do you not understand?

The US has given Iraq a number of chances to fork up WMD and overthrow Saddam, but the regime has failed to comply.

How do you explain the citizens of Basra cheering and providing assistance to American troops?

How would Iraq be disarmed and the regime be overthrown without the use of force?

 

[CanadianCripple]

This is what I meant by "pop-history lessons" in a response to HansNZ.

2Thick, you really should look more deeply into the era of which you try and speak. Don't use Oliver Stone as your history source either.

It would also be nice if people could get away from this "Republican" vs. "Democrat" battle... some of us couldn't care less or see much difference between the 2 parties.

Now I am interested in this statement:

"In this situation, the truth is already out there...hence the protests."

Oh please, do tell me "the truth" oh wise & ancient one?

 

[2Thick]

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By the way, the majortiy of all Americans support this war.

The majority of Americans cannot read at an 8th grade level. Plus the 500-1000 people they use for those polls are hardly a fair sampling of 300 million people.

The rest of your post is invalid.

 

[2Thick]

This is what I meant by "pop-history lessons" in a response to HansNZ.

2Thick, you really should look more deeply into the era of which you try and speak. Don't use Oliver Stone as your history source either.

It would also be nice if people could get away from this "Republican" vs. "Democrat" battle... some of us couldn't care less or see much difference between the 2 parties.

Now I am interested in this statement:

"In this situation, the truth is already out there...hence the protests."

Oh please, do tell me "the truth" oh wise & ancient one?

LOL... sure thing, bud. Because I do not agree with you, I learned everything froma movie I have not seen in its entirety.

The truth is that there is no valid reason for invading... no "WMD," and no international support. The Internet is a great thing.

 

[louden_swain]

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The majority of Americans cannot read at an 8th grade level. Plus the 500-1000 people they use for those polls are hardly a fair sampling of 300 million people.

The rest of your post is invalid.

Again, your pointless ramblings have proved that you are unable to provide a specific justification on why military action is not necessary, instead you come up with a preposterous statement about Americans and their reading level, which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion.

 

[2Thick]

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Again, your pointless ramblings have proved that you are unable to provide a specific justification on why military action is not necessary, instead you come up with a preposterous statement about Americans and their reading level, which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion.

Your argument is invalid.

 

[CanadianCripple]

LOL... sure thing, bud. Because I do not agree with you, I learned everything froma movie I have not seen in its entirety.

The truth is that there is no valid reason for invading... no "WMD," and no international support. The Internet is a great thing.

I didn't accuse you of making your initional argument from Stone material... just asking you not to answer with it.

Your response just told me a lot, "bud".

After the WMDs are found, will you run out into the street and yell "I'm a moron & was stupid for ever believing Saddam!"?

Be careful with your answer.

 

[louden_swain]

After the WMDs are found, will you run out into the street and yell "I'm a moron & was stupid for ever believing Saddam!"?

He doesn't need to do this. . . we already know.

 

[CanadianCripple]

He doesn't need to do this. . . we already know.

That may be true, but don't let him off easy.

 

[SUPERDIMI]

Protesters

I'm not stating an opinion one way or the other in support of the war. You all know what you want to know. That is the end of it.

Regarding protests:

I was in the service and I feel that the culture and mentality is different than what some people think. What goes on in the civilian world is irrelevant. In the military you have a chain of command and that is what matters. The whole argument that people shouldn't protest the war because the troops morale will be affected is "reaching".

My cousin in Greece tells me how much the rest of the world is mad about this war. I don't know how many of you care if the rest of the world hates us. But, I think it's okay to have some protesters on tv to remind others that they need to separate their opinion about the government of the U.S. from the people who live here.

-D

 

[SUPERDIMI]

Protesters

I'm not stating an opinion one way or the other in support of the war. You all know what you want to know. That is the end of it.

Regarding protests:

I was in the service and I feel that the culture and mentality is different than what some people think. What goes on in the civilian world is irrelevant. In the military you have a chain of command and that is what matters. The whole argument that people shouldn't protest the war because the troops moral will be affected is "reaching".

My cousin in Greece tells me how much the rest of the world is mad about this war. I don't know how many of you care if the rest of the world hates us. But, I think it's okay to have some protesters on tv to remind others that they need to separate their opinion about the government of the U.S. from the people who live here.

-D

 

[EngiCream]

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Your argument is invalid.

hahaha....I'm gonna start using that phrase in face-to-face arguments

 

[circusgirl]

I must agree, anti-war is your God given right, and to protest against such a war is perfectly fine by me....However, we still need to support our troops, both men and women....To place such signs as hoping our guys get killed and such....heh heh heh....wish they lived closer to me....

Ranger

Agreed. I want to see all the GIs and UK soldiers (and aussies) home safe as soon and as quickly as possible. I don't agree with Blair and Bush's judgement re sending the troops out there and I will be voting accordingly in the next election. BUT this has NOTHING to do with those brave heros out there fighting.

I'm not one of those anti-war types who hates the military. I think the military are MUCH braver than I am. I don't think I have what it takes to join up, which is why I never did.

I've got my fingers crossed they all get home safe. Sad because of the war. Sad because there have already been casualties. When they come back, I will be out in the street to welcome them back though.