A general question about cutting cycles

[Chubbosaurus]

I'm preparing to do my first cutting cycle (My previous cycle was a bulk) and I'm curious about something: I see lots of cutting cycles with prop/Winny/tren/Primo/Masteron/etc. Since the idea (I think) of a cutting cycle is just to retain LBM while in a calorie deficit, what is it that these drugs do that test alone (with an AI if you are prone to bloat) can't do?

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Just FYI - A cycle is a cycle is a cycle - it is your diet/cardio/training that determines whether you drop or gain bf. Steroids also stimulates the central nervous system which leads to an increase in your heart rate / metabolism (some more than others). Do some searches on this if possible because people would be able to type a book to answer your questions.

By the way, I know many people who drop bf on test (no real need for the ai's unless prone to the main sides of test. The water will leave after the cycle and you will then look less (fat) which is really bloat.

 

[Burpees]

I'm preparing to do my first cutting cycle (My previous cycle was a bulk) and I'm curious about something: I see lots of cutting cycles with prop/Winny/tren/Primo/Masteron/etc. Since the idea (I think) of a cutting cycle is just to retain LBM while in a calorie deficit, what is it that these drugs do that test alone (with an AI if you are prone to bloat) can't do?

Nothing. Those other drugs have better abilities at lower bf%'s. So you look harder, more vascular, more pump, more grainy, etc.. Test and Tren (if you're willing to take it) is all you need. Tren isn't shedding fat off of me, but if I hold back my calories a day or two I can see it in the mirror. Tren has really good nutrient partitioning effects, makes feed more efficient.

350-500mg of Test is all you need, I would consider some Prov or even Winny (20mg ED) for SHBG control so it increases free T. Good synergy..

What kind of diet are you looking at? I think something like the Ultimate Diet 2.0 is very good for losing BF on a cycle. I plan to keep bulking on my cycle, but I'm taking the next 10 days to do the Peanut Butter Diet.. It should help me knock off some water, a bit of fat, and make me feel less plump.. No way in hell the 30lbs I gained in the last 48 days is all muscle..I shouldn't lose anything I gained on 250mg of Test E3D and 100mg of Tren EOD..

 

[dabuffguy]

I'm preparing to do my first cutting cycle (My previous cycle was a bulk) and I'm curious about something: I see lots of cutting cycles with prop/Winny/tren/Primo/Masteron/etc. Since the idea (I think) of a cutting cycle is just to retain LBM while in a calorie deficit, what is it that these drugs do that test alone (with an AI if you are prone to bloat) can't do?

It's the estrogen conversion (promotes fat deposit) and water retention that makes test less ideal for "cutting".

 

[Burpees]

It's the estrogen conversion (promotes fat deposit) and water retention that makes test less ideal for "cutting".

That's an awesome response, I had not thought about that but you're right. 120% right.

 

[Chubbosaurus]

It's the estrogen conversion (promotes fat deposit) and water retention that makes test less ideal for "cutting".

Yes but couldn't one just take anti-estrogens for that and still come out spending less money than with the other mentioned steroids?

 

[Chubbosaurus]

Nothing. Those other drugs have better abilities at lower bf%'s. So you look harder, more vascular, more pump, more grainy, etc.. Test and Tren (if you're willing to take it) is all you need. Tren isn't shedding fat off of me, but if I hold back my calories a day or two I can see it in the mirror. Tren has really good nutrient partitioning effects, makes feed more efficient.

350-500mg of Test is all you need, I would consider some Prov or even Winny (20mg ED) for SHBG control so it increases free T. Good synergy..

What kind of diet are you looking at? I think something like the Ultimate Diet 2.0 is very good for losing BF on a cycle. I plan to keep bulking on my cycle, but I'm taking the next 10 days to do the Peanut Butter Diet.. It should help me knock off some water, a bit of fat, and make me feel less plump.. No way in hell the 30lbs I gained in the last 48 days is all muscle..I shouldn't lose anything I gained on 250mg of Test E3D and 100mg of Tren EOD..

I've tried both tren and Winny and couldn't handle the sides so I'm thinking of either test alone or test with Masteron at the end.

I was thinking of doing Dave Palumbo's recommended cut diet.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

I'm preparing to do my first cutting cycle (My previous cycle was a bulk) and I'm curious about something: I see lots of cutting cycles with prop/Winny/tren/Primo/Masteron/etc. Since the idea (I think) of a cutting cycle is just to retain LBM while in a calorie deficit, what is it that these drugs do that test alone (with an AI if you are prone to bloat) can't do?

Nothing really. As long as you're diet and cardio are in check you will be fine.

 

[Burpees]

I've tried both tren and Winny and couldn't handle the sides so I'm thinking of either test alone or test with Masteron at the end.

I was thinking of doing Dave Palumbo's recommended cut diet.

I was about to start a Palumbo diet, high fats, mod protein, no carbs.. I decided to just stick to my 350g Protein, 200g Carbs, and whatever fat gets in from my EFA supps and proteins..slow n steady..