A few questions about making gear.

[psychedout]

Okay hypothetically speaking, here are my questions about raw powders.

1) Is making an injectable as simple as people make it sounds?
Like supposed I have Test cyp powder, is it as easy as mixing it with sterile oil, and some ba?

2)Suppose one has var powder (usp 23) -- and wants to make some caps out of it. How does one measure 10mg per cap?? Do you mix it with something else?? Cause afterall 10mg is practically nothing in terms of volume.

3)Does anyone have a good read on making things yourself?
I am very amature when it comes to homebrewing stuff.

Sorry if some of these are dumb questions, I don't know any better lol.

Thanks.

 

[psychedout]

Well I found a good answer for powders.

http://www.massmonsterz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1107

^For the oral question though.

 

[psychedout]

Also what does usp23 mean? I know usp24 is supposed to be better but why? (isn't that what makes btg var so good?).

 

[Dr. M]

Okay hypothetically speaking, here are my questions about raw powders.

1) Is making an injectable as simple as people make it sounds?
Like supposed I have Test cyp powder, is it as easy as mixing it with sterile oil, and some ba?

2)Suppose one has var powder (usp 23) -- and wants to make some caps out of it. How does one measure 10mg per cap?? Do you mix it with something else?? Cause afterall 10mg is practically nothing in terms of volume.

Making injectables is easy. Making sterile, painless, correctly dosed injectables is not as easy as one thinks. I cook up my own gear from time to time, and ensuring sterility is key... and, being my own gear, I want it to be painless. You need to play around with cosolvents like BA and BB, and understand co-solubility as it pertains to crystallization in the depot to make quality gear.

Any idiot can homebrew, but it takes a GIFT to homebrew like a pro.

Now, regarding the caps, I get asked this a million times a day. You DO NOT measure out 10mg/cap. You combine correct proportions of ingredient + filler which will give you a certain amount of gear per cap. If you need any further explanation than this, you need to really step back and ask if capping your own is really for you. You might do yourself some harm, or waste gear, over/underdose it, etc. if you don't know what you're doing.

-M

 

[psychedout]

Thanks for the reply Dr.M.

Regarding the orals (sorry to hassle you, i'm sure you get this all to often) I would like to research it more obviously -- and find out how to mix powder/filler properly, and how to cap properly so that I don't 'harm, or waste gear, over/underdose it, etc.'

If I screw up an oral its one thing, because I can't really hurt myself (well not that I know of), but if I make a bad injetable, I could get an infection and such.

So just how does one go about preparing an oral?

 

[rjl296]

Thanks for the reply Dr.M.

Regarding the orals (sorry to hassle you, i'm sure you get this all to often) I would like to research it more obviously -- and find out how to mix powder/filler properly, and how to cap properly so that I don't 'harm, or waste gear, over/underdose it, etc.'

If I screw up an oral its one thing, because I can't really hurt myself (well not that I know of), but if I make a bad injetable, I could get an infection and such.

So just how does one go about preparing an oral?

2 ways. mix it witha filler with the same consistency as the powder. then calculate percentage of total weight is actual drug (ie 10 % ) then weigh out a capsule, filled. say the capsule weighs 100mg. You then have 10 mg / capsule. Obviously, this is a very rough sketch.

the easier way. suspend it in PG or ethanol (ie like the research co. do)

 

[psychedout]

2 ways. mix it witha filler with the same consistency as the powder. then calculate percentage of total weight is actual drug (ie 10 % ) then weigh out a capsule, filled. say the capsule weighs 100mg. You then have 10 mg / capsule. Obviously, this is a very rough sketch.

the easier way. suspend it in PG or ethanol (ie like the research co. do)

I think doing the filler thing would be too inconsistent with var because at 10mg a cap, thats only 1% if I fill to a gram.

Unless someone has a consistent way of doing it.

Also would suspending var in pg /ethanol ruin it in any way? Also, what would be wrong with suspending it in water?? Afterall, its not being injected, so sterility isn't an issue, is it??

 

[Dr. M]

I think doing the filler thing would be too inconsistent with var because at 10mg a cap, thats only 1% if I fill to a gram.

Unless someone has a consistent way of doing it.

I think you're missing the point.

1 - Say you're going to make 100 caps which will hold 300mg each of cornstarch (you've measured this capacity using a cap filled with cornstarch only, so you know EXACTLY how much cornstarch your cap will hold). This means you need 100 x 10mg anavar powder = 1g var powder in total.

2 - 100 x 300mg = 30g total powder volume in the 100 caps you're going to make. So, you need to mix in your 1g var with 29g filler to make a mixture which - when mixed to the appropriate homogeneity - contains 10mg anavar per 300mg mixture.

3 - lay out your 100 caps (or however many you're making) in a capsule filler and add the appropriate amount of your mixture. If you were going to make 20 caps only, you'd only include enough mixture for 20 caps - in this case, this would be 6g instead of 30g (since 20 is 1/5th of 100).

4 - fill and cap. Eat. Enjoy.

I'd better get some karma for this.

-M

 

[xsnrg]

Also what does usp23 mean? I know usp24 is supposed to be better but why? (isn't that what makes btg var so good?).

From what i understand the number after the usp is the edition number and doesnt mean the powder is more powerful or more pure.The older usp number may be stronger or more pure.Think of it like this....say the pass number for usp23 is 90 and the chemical in question has a test mark of 99.9.Now say you have the same chemical but with a usp 24 and the pass mark for that is 95 but the chemical tested to be 96.They both pass but the older edition is more pure.....clear as mud

 

[hisswoleness]

you guys are way to smart for me.....

 

[concordsize]

Freaks!!lol THis sounds great for someone that uses var, due the high cost. I was thinking of making my own gear as well but the only tabs that I use alot of is dbol and anadrol and they are not expensive. But I would someday like to do my own test and tren enanthate.

E

 

[rjl296]

Freaks!!lol THis sounds great for someone that uses var, due the high cost. I was thinking of making my own gear as well but the only tabs that I use alot of is dbol and anadrol and they are not expensive. But I would someday like to do my own test and tren enanthate.

E

youll find the price on tren enanthate to be high though