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[Andy13]

let me refraise ... its prolly just my uneducated ass regarding roids here, but here goes anyway

.. the thing that bothers me, is the equation doesnt hold an aspect that accounts for the consuption of the steroid, lets say test.. test enan, halflife of 14 days.. u inject 250mg day1, day14 125mg will still be esterfied and remaining in some depot of ur body... my problem is this : do i then have 125mg og test floating around by body at day 14 ? No, it has been broken down by my liver(right?), but the question is, at what rate ? And as i see it, this is how the blood concentration should plot out.. its an differential equation, u got something going in, and u got something going out, at different rates.... on top of that, the larger the intake, the larger the out will be.. i cant grasp the equation right now, and my calculus books are out of the house plus its been a while since messign with them... but does this sound far off ?

im problary overlooking something, awaiting ur answer paitently

The graph is basically the 'rate of metabolism' of the steroid.

Keep in mind that there is a HUGE difference between a compounds duration of activity and half life. There are some papers floating around stating that TE is active in the body for 14 days. These research papers were written from a hormone replacement therapy view. TE can be injected (250mg, say), and after 14 days, the blood testosterone levels will still be at or above a normal man's. That's all '14-day activity' means.

TE's half life is closer to 4-6 days.

Andy

 

[Xtreme2001]

Help!

Zyg/Andy, would their be any benefits for me to front load Cyp on this upcoming cycle of mine?

dbol- 35mg/day 1-3
Test cyp- 750mg/week 1-10 Frontloading the first 2 weeks at 1000 or 1250mg
Eq- 400mg/week 1-10
Winny- 5-12 50mg/ed
Fina- 75mg/EOD 7-12
armidex- .5/ed -end

I'll have an exta bit of cyp left over, I could even front load it to 1250 for the first two weeks.. I just don't want to over due it. i'm not sure how much my body can handle. I haven't seen a chart for front loading cyp, that's why i ask.
Unless Running it at a constant 1000mg/week would give me better results/mass gain.

 

[Xtreme2001]

BUMP..
Could someone answer that for me.

 

[Audio8]

BUMP..
Could someone answer that for me.

Yes. Frontloading cyp is fine. You should have previous experience with a few cycles. For your first time, I would FL at 1g then base it at 750mg.

 

[Xtreme2001]

Yeh it'll be my first time for FL anything.

Zyg.. you wouldn't happen to have a chart for Frontloading Cyp would ya???

 

[Zyglamail]

cyp/enth/deca while slightly different esters, the same basic frontload principle applies.

 

[Jabs]

bump
I thought I would bring this one out again

jabs

 

[Gear101]

sweet post bro

 

[strong island]

Found this writtne by Bill Roberts...the difference between enanthate and cypionate seems a bit odd.

"What are the half-lives of different esters?

Shorter chain esters have shorter half-lives, because of their lower partition coefficient. Testosterone cypionate has a half-life of 8 days, the enanthate ester has a half-life of 4 days, and nandrolone decanoate has a half-life of 8 days. These figures are only approximate. The difference between these values for cypionate and enanthate probably includes difference attributable to different measuring techniques. The actual difference is probably not more than two days.

In the rat, where half-lives of anabolic steroid esters are similar to those in humans but somewhat shorter, the half-lives of the phenylpropionate, decanoate, and laurate esters are 1, 5, and 10 days respectively. The same trend would be expected in man.

Half-life is linearly related to log partition coefficient, which is itself linearly related to the carbon chain length, the exception being if the ester is an unusual one such as phenylpropionate. This was shown by James et al. for the formate through valerate esters of testosterone in the rat. The half-life of testosterone propionate was approximately 4 days, and each carbon added to or subtracted from that chain length changed half-life by about 1.5 days."

 

[strong island]

Heres another link with other half-life times:

http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/new_archives/anex_archive_issue46_BLOOD.htm