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911 Conspiracy?

spongebob said:
can you explain the deputy director thing. are you referring to james pavitt or a.b. krongard? im just now reading ,aterial on it and im not sure how someone is coming up with the CIA deputy director did some insider trading.
I seen that, I think, in Alex Jones material.

If it is not true then Alex should get a gag order put on him. Since there is no gag order then one wonders about authenticity.

His remarks are 1000 times more outrageous than mine and 1,000,000 times more influential. Shoot....I have got most of my info from him.
 
Boss101 said:
Has anyone seen this video? Its another conspiracy video on Building 7, Pentagon and WTC!

40 mins long!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/painful_deceptions_excerpt.wmv
Very interesting material.

99.9% of the WTC wound up in 24 foot sections, or less, which is the carrying capacity of trucks.


Bldg 7 got demolished by a few small fires yet was one of the strongest buildings conceivable.


Apparently the F** has been enlisted to do some dirty work for the NWO but this event will catch up to all of those involved.

Very, very sloppy work.
 
spongebob said:
im wondering(because its just a thought) if all the heat from the compacted material transfered downward instead of upward. the subterranean layer would be cooler than the atmosphere i believe....like i said, im probably way off.

You are way off on this one :)

You're suggesting two contradictory things.

1) the temps in the subbasement remained colder than the outside, explaining why all the thermal energy was transferred into the subbasement.

2) subbasment temps liqufied some surrounding steel because that’s where all the thermal energy transferred too.



You're suggesting all or most of the heat created from fires transferred down into the subbasement because it was colder than that of the external environment. But as the temps rose in the subbasement, far before they were sufficient to melt steel - 50-100-150 degrees - the subbasement became much hotter relative to the outside environment. Therefore, the remaining thermal energy would have transferred outward into the relativily colder external environment precluding formation of temps sufficent to liquify steel in the subbasement.

It's as simple as that.
 
Boss101 said:
Has anyone seen this video? Its another conspiracy video on Building 7, Pentagon and WTC!

40 mins long!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/painful_deceptions_excerpt.wmv
I'd like to hear some comments on this video. It is easy on the nerves, educational, and almost enjoyable. More professional and credible than the stuff by Alex Jones and the guy shows some real wit at the end.


People who make conspiracy stories with patently known false information ought to be shot though.

How can you blame someone for seeking the truth about important historcal events?
 
buddy28 said:
You are way off on this one :)

You're suggesting two contradictory things.

1) the temps in the subbasement remained colder than the outside, explaining why all the thermal energy was transferred into the subbasement.

2) subbasment temps liqufied some surrounding steel because that’s where all the thermal energy transferred too.



You're suggesting all or most of the heat created from fires transferred down into the subbasement because it was colder than that of the external environment. But as the temps rose in the subbasement, far before they were sufficient to melt steel - 50-100-150 degrees - the subbasement became much hotter relative to the outside environment. Therefore, the remaining thermal energy would have transferred outward into the relativily colder external environment precluding formation of temps sufficent to liquify steel in the subbasement.

It's as simple as that.

no, its not that simple. :)

1. the 1,000,000 tons of material were several stories high. once heat transferred to the subbasement it continued downward, the earth below is colder. at some point the subbasement may have, (or maybe not if the heat continues to transfer downward)equalized with the 1,000,000tons of material. now at this point, i say the heat has two places to go from the central core of the 1,000,000tons of material. down or up, and either way its being transferred, while the fire still burns and produces more heat.

2. the thermal energy transferred thru the subbasement, it doesnt stop there, it continues to a lower temp environment.

i understand your explanation but if the material is several stories high and extremely compacted i would actually believe alot of thermal energy transferred both ways. and it may be possible that enough transferred downward to melt steel. and your not taking into account the length of time the steel was exposed or the actual thermal energy. a gallon of water boiling at 212 has nowhere near the thermal energy a swimming has boiling at 212. big difference.
 
Testosterone boy said:
I seen that, I think, in Alex Jones material.

If it is not true then Alex should get a gag order put on him. Since there is no gag order then one wonders about authenticity.

His remarks are 1000 times more outrageous than mine and 1,000,000 times more influential. Shoot....I have got most of my info from him.

well to be honest i havent read anymore on it but i believe they are making the connection because the deputy director was the head of the investing firm that alot of the shorts went thru on that day. i think he ran that firm some 5 or 6 years ago, so i believe that is how they are making the connection.
 
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