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its alright if you believe. A lot of people believe, but they dont believe in the bullshit of 99% of the organized religions out there.
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Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution
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Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all.
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(CBS) Americans do not believe that humans evolved, and the vast majority says that even if they evolved, God guided the process. Just 13 percent say that God was not involved. But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all.
There are also differences between voters who supported Kerry and those who supported Bush: 47 percent of John Kerry’s voters think God created humans as they are now, compared with 67 percent of Bush voters.
VIEWS ON EVOLUTION/CREATIONISM
God created humans in present form
All Americans
55%
Kerry voters
47%
Bush voters
67%
Humans evolved, God guided the process
All Americans
27%
Kerry voters
28%
Bush voters
22%
Humans evolved, God did not guide process
All Americans
13%
Kerry voters
21%
Bush voters
6%
Overall, about two-thirds of Americans want creationism taught along with evolution. Only 37 percent want evolutionism replaced outright.
More than half of Kerry voters want creationism taught alongside evolution. Bush voters are much more willing to want creationism to replace evolution altogether in a curriculum (just under half favor that), and 71 percent want it at least included.
FAVOR SCHOOLS TEACHING…
Creationism and evolution
All Americans
65%
Kerry voters
56%
Bush voters
71%
Creationism instead of evolution
All Americans
37%
Kerry voters
24%
Bush voters
45%
60 percent of Americans who call themselves Evangelical Christians, however, favor replacing evolution with creationism in schools altogether, as do 50 percent of those who attend religious services every week.
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This poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 885 adults interviewed by telephone November 18-21, 2004. There were 795 registered voters. The error due to sampling could be plus or minus three percentage points for results based on all adults and all registered voters.
For detailed information on how CBS News conducts public opinion surveys, click here.
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Dec. 5, 2004 11:07pm ET The Early Show CBS Evening News 48 Hours 60 Minutes (SUN) 60 Minutes (WED) All Broadcasts
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Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution
NEW YORK, Nov. 22, 2004
Adam And Eve Vs. Darwin
(Photo: CBS/AP)
Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all.
ISSUES THAT DIVIDE
This week, CBS News uses
in-depth reporting and polls to examine several issues that divide the nation.
Stories:
• Assisted Suidice Debated In Oregon
• Evolution Showdown In Georgia
• Religion In The Pharmacy?
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• America Divided On Assisted Suicide
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• Creationism Trumps Evolution
• America's Cultural Divide
• Bush's Next Four Years
(CBS) Americans do not believe that humans evolved, and the vast majority says that even if they evolved, God guided the process. Just 13 percent say that God was not involved. But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all.
There are also differences between voters who supported Kerry and those who supported Bush: 47 percent of John Kerry’s voters think God created humans as they are now, compared with 67 percent of Bush voters.
VIEWS ON EVOLUTION/CREATIONISM
God created humans in present form
All Americans
55%
Kerry voters
47%
Bush voters
67%
Humans evolved, God guided the process
All Americans
27%
Kerry voters
28%
Bush voters
22%
Humans evolved, God did not guide process
All Americans
13%
Kerry voters
21%
Bush voters
6%
Overall, about two-thirds of Americans want creationism taught along with evolution. Only 37 percent want evolutionism replaced outright.
More than half of Kerry voters want creationism taught alongside evolution. Bush voters are much more willing to want creationism to replace evolution altogether in a curriculum (just under half favor that), and 71 percent want it at least included.
FAVOR SCHOOLS TEACHING…
Creationism and evolution
All Americans
65%
Kerry voters
56%
Bush voters
71%
Creationism instead of evolution
All Americans
37%
Kerry voters
24%
Bush voters
45%
60 percent of Americans who call themselves Evangelical Christians, however, favor replacing evolution with creationism in schools altogether, as do 50 percent of those who attend religious services every week.
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I believe there is something that created all this.My entire life is not dictated by a written book though.
chewyxrage
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No wonder this country's so fucked
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Ulcasterdropout
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I hope there is a God, and an after life, cuz this life sucks fucking dog cock and I want out!
Ulcasterdropout said:
Agreed.This world and all the disgusting shit we do to each other makes me think that THIS is hell here.I also agree with biteme,and share the distinction of witnessing things that lead me to believe that consciousness/individuality/personality survive biological demise.
chewyxrage
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Ulcasterdropout said:
That would be the best ever...can't lie to myself though.
Robert Jan
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90%
in Holland its more like
10%
in Holland its more like
10%
AristotleBC
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biteme said:
But alas, this board is not a microcosm of society.
AristotleBC
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Robert Jan said:
LOL @ Holland
Robert Jan
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AristotleBC said:
LOL @ You
biteme said:
Dude, this board is not a microcosm of society.
The world is not filled with young extreme physical narcissists.
What did the poll show for the Presidential election. It had to be at least 70% Kerry. That should tell you something right there.
The problem is GL. Hes the fly in the ointment somehow. Get rid of GL, and I know the world wqould right itself.
Have to go, God's calling
EnderJE said:
sure you can.
but i'll still know its fake.
i think the entire religious thing is excellent for those who need it- it give them guidance and hope and stuff, but for me, its a big old wives tale. I rarely discuss religion with people cause i respect other's beliefs and i don't want to offend anyone with my lack of them.
biteme said:
I am a sinner I confess that. But I don't really use gear anymore and beside I don't think gear should be illegal anyway. The only reason is because this country has millions of no life losers in it that enjoy watching a bunch of dudes running around chasing a pig skin ball or baseball or a basketball. So they made steroids illegal because these loser parents that raise loser kids that play these loser sports in highschool as a way of life don't want another kid having an advantage over their because of gear use. So since all the loser politicians are fat slob alcholics thought they would just made gear illegal since they don't care(it don't effect them) and it makes these loser parents that don't care about nothing besides their stupid friday high school football teams happy by making it illegal.
So if this country would get off the couch and stop watching all these over paid loser jocks act like fags on a football field by putting their hands between dudes ass cheeks why he is bending over maybe gear would be legal again. But since I don't play those stupid fag sports why should I not be able to use gear to make muscles bigger?
chewyxrage
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curling said:
Well, that was a horrible post.
biteme said:
In additon to what has been mentioned earleier, I think the other factor is that this site has a young (sh) mebership. People tend to grow closer and more aware of a Creator as they get older. The young are still silly enough to imagine they are invinvible and will live forever
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
some dude at my gym i'm decent aquaintences with...The other day im like "jesus christ tony i almost forgot my set of upright rows", being silly. and out of nowehere he's like hey ma dont go dissin god and stuff i respect god, etc etc." I had no clue he was actually being serious, so im like "naw man i said jesus christ not god." And he's like "no anything like that, god jesus whatever, etc etc.". I was just like um, ok, and dropped it, but a part of me wanted to go off on him and explin that for one, i never said fuck your god or anything, and if i want to use some fairy tale's name in vain for comedic purposes, i should be able to (because there's also that whole free speech thing) and i really have no idea how hearing the name of your religious symbol used out of disgust disrupts your life in anyway, but if it really does, maybe you need help.
but I didn't want to be ignorant.
but I didn't want to be ignorant.
chewyxrage
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curling said:
No, it made very little sense. That's the problem. I think you over-exaggerating the use of AAS in highschool atheletics. I played basketball (class AA) and football (class 5-a) and knew maybe 1 kid who used steroids. It never crosses the mind of most high school kids.
About the "over-paid loser jocks" comment....they can do something you (and the majority of people) can't. Therefore they get paid. How does that make them losers? That's how it works. If you could provide what they do you wouldn't be saying the same thing. The other comments about "fag sports" was offensive as well.
ChewYxRage said:
I am sorry I shouldn't make fun of team sports. I had crappy coaches when i was a kid and learned to hate them. I am into xtreme sports - motocross, wakeboarding, roadracing, skatboarding etc. It just pisses me that these other dudes make so much money playing ball sports compared to these other talented athletes don't make squat expecially for the risk they take. As back to my steroid comment and why they are illegal I am pretty much right on. High school is the main culprite. Parents lobbied to get those laws passed. Even the medical proffesion didn't think they were harmful enought to be grouped in other drugs such as meth and other drugs but they went ahead and did anyway.
I mean I understand there is alot of money to be made in sports and no one wants someone else to have an unfair advantage. But see I don't play sport I could give a rats ass about them. So why shouldn't I be able to use gear responsibly? Because this country is insane in the membrane about team sports I don't think so.
chewyxrage
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curling said:
It seems any "newer" drug (unlike tobacoo and alcohol) will be made illegal by the government. Doesn't just apply to steroids. Look at marijuana - very little side effects and health risks. Didn't stop the government from making it illegal and there was no multi-million dollar industry (like team sports) to motivate that decision.
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roidpuple
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I am with ya on that one... but those are big titsSugarplum said:
Sugarplum said:
I wasnt suggetsing that everyone over 50 suddenly attends church every sunday. But as a general rule most people become more religious as they get older. People also tend to be more religious depending on their economic status (poorer countries often having the most devout populations).
Anyway, after I die, Ill try to put in a good word for you hon. Ill do my best, but He doesnt liek you much. Im his favorite though, so Ill see what i can do
ChewYxRage said:
Weed is a newer drug bro. It is just most politicians don't smoke weed either. But they do drink and they do smoke so they won't make those illegal.
Anyway I am not kidding I did some research on it. Study up on it why steroids wy they were made sooo illegal when the medical community didn't think they should have been. It was mainly sports bro.
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roidpuple
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God humm.......god is just an explanation to the unknown.... year and years ago no school no science just forest and grass and shit little tommy said dad what is lighting...dad said hummm well god did it..... Dad why are we here? God put us here...
truth is we are just here because of chance ..... chemicals where in the right place at the right time wola evolution.. no reason it just worked....there was live if live did not have a built in chemical reasction telling it to live and eat and reproduce we would not ..and there you have it.... no reason just happened ..we have a false reality they we are taught when we are born.....as soon as you can say a work they are saying god God god .... telling you that you have no choice.....
also most do not believe in god ...... but they are afraid to admit it... they think well what if there is a god .. i dont really wanna chance it. you know.. well there is no heaven there is no god .... so lets clon ourselves so we can trasplant our brains and live for ever ......... only way to live forever
truth is we are just here because of chance ..... chemicals where in the right place at the right time wola evolution.. no reason it just worked....there was live if live did not have a built in chemical reasction telling it to live and eat and reproduce we would not ..and there you have it.... no reason just happened ..we have a false reality they we are taught when we are born.....as soon as you can say a work they are saying god God god .... telling you that you have no choice.....
also most do not believe in god ...... but they are afraid to admit it... they think well what if there is a god .. i dont really wanna chance it. you know.. well there is no heaven there is no god .... so lets clon ourselves so we can trasplant our brains and live for ever ......... only way to live forever
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biteme said:
That you would make such an assinine statement as to suggest that the EF chat board is a microcosm of society completely disqualifies you as being able to cast aspersions on the sentiments of American Society.
People who don't know and don't know that they don't know are frustrating.
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UA_Iron
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Synpax said:
your faulty reasoning is worse than the statement you're criticizing. Check your logic bro.
Lift Chief
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Wow- that large of a percentage of Americans what creationism taught in schools- that surprises and frightens me.
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roidpuple
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Samuel 12:11-14, God causes King David's child to die for a sin that David committed. This is contrary to what God allegedly said in Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20 where God said that children shall not be put to death for the sins of their fathers. Every one shall be put to death for his own sin. How on earth can all these innocent infants in these horrible Bible stories be punished for something that they had no control. You'd think that God, in his omnipotence and ominscience could have devised a better plan.
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roidpuple
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it is strang that most people dont believe in monsters under you bed ghost... things like that but..they can believe there use to be ...back in the bible days......
Tom Treutlein
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Religion fucking sucks.
And I'm not going to be nice like Sugar and be respectful and shit. I hate religion, and anyone who actually follows any sort of commandments or lets religion dictate their lives is a fucking PIECE. OF. SHIT.
Whether I sound ignorant, angry, volatile or rude, I don't care. I hate religion. I hate what it has created. I hate what half this world has fucking become. I hate the idealology behind it. I don't even support some of the morals anymoe. Adultery? Some people don't wanna fucking be together, but they don't want to hurt the other! It's their business. Theft? Pfft - ignorance is bliss. Don't let me know you stole from me and I'm fine. As long as no one does anything life threatening that really hinders someones existance, who gives a fuck?
These piece of shit religious dogs, that's who. They allow all that shit to just tag them along on a string. It's ridiculous. My ex-girlfriend's fucking parents warped her and they're screwed themselves. What the fuck has praying done for anyone besides settled their mind a bit? And it wouldn't even do that if they'd be logical and really think about what they're believing in.
-A burning bush talking to a man and giving him the divine code by which humanity should be constructed around.
-A being or force (normally thought of as male for whatever reason) that sees and knows all, just like fucking SANTA CLAUSE, and will put you on his shit list if you defy his ten rules.
-The idea that after this, depending on how well you acted, you will be sent to a place for the naughty or nice. Oh lordy, no!
DOES ANYONE REALIZE THESE ARE JUST WAYS THAT THE CHURCH CONTROLLED THE MASSES IN THE DAYS OF OLD? HOLY SHIT! THAT WAS BEFORE TONS OF PEOPLE COULD READ AND WRITE, THE CHURCH HAD ALL THE PULL IN EVERYTHING - THE KING DID SHIT. THIS STEMS BACK TO WHEN PEOPLE WERE FUCKING ILLITERATE, AND LOCALIZED IN THEIR OWN LITTLE FUCKING MANORS AND VILLAGES! NOW WE KNOW BETTER! WE'RE IN THE INFORMATION AGE! SO WHY ISN'T ANY OF THIS INFORMATION PASSING THROUGH THE THICK SKULLS OF THESE PEOPLE!?
Sorry for all the caps there, didn't think it'd be that long, and I'm not retyping it.
And I had to rant. This shit pisses me off the more I think about it. God damn.
And I'm not going to be nice like Sugar and be respectful and shit. I hate religion, and anyone who actually follows any sort of commandments or lets religion dictate their lives is a fucking PIECE. OF. SHIT.
Whether I sound ignorant, angry, volatile or rude, I don't care. I hate religion. I hate what it has created. I hate what half this world has fucking become. I hate the idealology behind it. I don't even support some of the morals anymoe. Adultery? Some people don't wanna fucking be together, but they don't want to hurt the other! It's their business. Theft? Pfft - ignorance is bliss. Don't let me know you stole from me and I'm fine. As long as no one does anything life threatening that really hinders someones existance, who gives a fuck?
These piece of shit religious dogs, that's who. They allow all that shit to just tag them along on a string. It's ridiculous. My ex-girlfriend's fucking parents warped her and they're screwed themselves. What the fuck has praying done for anyone besides settled their mind a bit? And it wouldn't even do that if they'd be logical and really think about what they're believing in.
-A burning bush talking to a man and giving him the divine code by which humanity should be constructed around.
-A being or force (normally thought of as male for whatever reason) that sees and knows all, just like fucking SANTA CLAUSE, and will put you on his shit list if you defy his ten rules.
-The idea that after this, depending on how well you acted, you will be sent to a place for the naughty or nice. Oh lordy, no!
DOES ANYONE REALIZE THESE ARE JUST WAYS THAT THE CHURCH CONTROLLED THE MASSES IN THE DAYS OF OLD? HOLY SHIT! THAT WAS BEFORE TONS OF PEOPLE COULD READ AND WRITE, THE CHURCH HAD ALL THE PULL IN EVERYTHING - THE KING DID SHIT. THIS STEMS BACK TO WHEN PEOPLE WERE FUCKING ILLITERATE, AND LOCALIZED IN THEIR OWN LITTLE FUCKING MANORS AND VILLAGES! NOW WE KNOW BETTER! WE'RE IN THE INFORMATION AGE! SO WHY ISN'T ANY OF THIS INFORMATION PASSING THROUGH THE THICK SKULLS OF THESE PEOPLE!?
Sorry for all the caps there, didn't think it'd be that long, and I'm not retyping it.
And I had to rant. This shit pisses me off the more I think about it. God damn.
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roidpuple
Guest
Ya Ya Ya what he said.............why are people so afraid to question things...God is to the earth is flat........as evolution is to it is fucking round silly people....
chewyxrage
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lol.....preach on Tom. more like rant on, that's okay too
let's think about how many people have died as a result of religious wars.....hmmmm
and that last paragraph in caps was dead on
more like rant on, that's okay too let's think about how many people have died as a result of religious wars.....hmmmm
and that last paragraph in caps was dead on
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Spartacus
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not reading any further
and CNN polls as well as exit polls showed Kerry would win
there is no God
and CNN polls as well as exit polls showed Kerry would win
there is no God
S
Spartacus
Guest
sing along
"do the hokey pokey"
"do the hokey pokey"
S
Spartacus
Guest
for me,primarily because I believe in it's finalityUlcasterdropout said:
"no one here get's out alive"
I'm a mortician too,so I get reminded daily
eventually,as a thinking man,you will go insane as death approaches
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roidpuple
Guest
our god....is an awsome god he aint what ....oh ya what god...
Tom, i wasn't being nice- its really how i feel. i respect other people's beliefs because i want them to respect mine. do i think religion is silly? no- it provides a lot of good to people. do i think there is a god? NO way and i never will- its an old wives tale that never ends, but as adamant i am about knowing there IS no god, thats how adamant others are that there is.
Robert Jan
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n0th1ng said:
Good point.
If it were up to me... a certain effective End-solution comes to mind
AristotleBC
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Tom Treutlein said:
Quit bitching Turdling. Secularists have their own mirror images of all that you'd hate about religion and have been responsible for some of the greatest evils of the 20th century.
Robert Jan
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I feel misrepresented by him. However I'm too lazy to type out a long post like he did. If you have any specific questions let me knowJerseyArt said:
deltreefitness
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Sugarplum said:
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Religion doesn't have a very good track record for doing much "good" for society. Especially Christianity.
yomama
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It's because there arent a lot of "real" christians. THere is a lot of people that "believe" in God and so they call themselves "christians" when they really are not. Demons believe in God, so does Satan, because they've met him. That makes them believers too, but I wouldnt call them "Christians".deltreefitness said:
deltreefitness
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yomama said:
REAL Chrisitians would judge and kill all non-believers.
Testosterone boy
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Religion does a lot of good for a lot of people.
Historically..it has also done great harm to millions.
I would go to church if there was a good one reasonably distanced. That will piss off everyone and I really do not care.
Historically..it has also done great harm to millions.
I would go to church if there was a good one reasonably distanced. That will piss off everyone and I really do not care.
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UA_Iron
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JerseyArt said:
check your logic. Refuting such claims must be made directly not indirectly.
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UA_Iron
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Testosterone boy said:
I'd go to church if there was pussy involved, but for anything else no.
deltreefitness
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Which god are we talking about?
chewyxrage
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BlkDragon said:
The olympics is a bit different than highschool sports.
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