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9 weeks out.. plz help

bro31313

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I am about 9 weeks out from my mens physique competion, i need help with figuring out how to go about a cutting cycle. I want to still gain a little bit of muscle before i get to be 2-3 weeks out. Whats the best cutting cycle to use that will help me build a little as well as shred up. . I was thinking winstro-50 with Clen but not sure what else to add etc. also what doses do you recommend, this will actually be my first cycle ever, ive achieved a looot naturally but going up against many who use, my chances are slim without a little boost. . Thanks in advance
 
Your probably not going to get the answer your looking for at this time, however for what your trying to achieve it sounds like you may benefit from a triple SARMs stack. Do a search and read up on what it does and check out some of dylan Gemelli's threads....Lots of great info!
 
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If i don't place that high, then that's just what it is, im not a sore loser in anyway, i will still leave with a smile on my face for be blessed with the opportunity to do it in the first place. . i will take the critique from the judges and move forward. . oh and by the way i just checked and my bodyfat is actually lower now, about 7-8% so im basically contest ready, just looking for insight on maybe adding a bit more muscle while maintaining leanness. . thanks again guys!
 
Thanks bud, i will check it out for sure

Your probably not going to get the answer your looking for at this time, however for what your trying to achieve it sounds like you may benefit from a triple SARMs stack. Do a search and read up on what it does and check out some of dylan Magelli's threads....Lots of great info!
 
with the amount of time that you have, which is not much, i would go a few different ways... the sarms stack is amazing... it really has excellent benefit... if you started a 6 week oral run of anavar or winstrol, then you would be in pct during your competition... i think for the most size and shed that winstrol is probably the best choice but im not sure how necessary it is, especially at your age... i think sarms would be a great option...
 
So heres what i was thinking for a nice cutting cycle.. I have Test Prop and winny on the way to me so this was what i was thinking

Weeks 1-10 100mg of Test P EOD
Weeks 1-10 50mg of Winny ED
[FONT=&quot]Weeks 11-13 or 14 PCT Nolva 20mg

Would this be a good idea?? Thoughts?

Again my stats are:
[/FONT]23yrs old
5'8
bout 7-8% bodyfat
153lbs

Thanks for the feedback!
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that entire set up is not good...

winny for 10 week? your joints will be so fucked and you don't run orals that long man...

1-8 test prop 150 mg eod
1-8 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
3-8 winnie 50 mg day
3-8 n2guard
3-8 hcgenerate

pct
9-12 clomid 25/25/25/25
9-12 unleashed/post cycle combo
9-12 forma stanzol
9-12 daa powerchews or powder
 
this is basically exactly how i started out. I personally don't think you should be on stage while your in pct.. try to plan it so that u are on stage the last or second to last week of your cycle. u will want to use some compounds that dont add any water to you. test prop is an excellent option, adding masteron to that may be a viable option especially when the body fat gets real low and water starts to disappear. my best friend won his mens fitness this past year.. and the only thing he ran to get ready is 6 weeks of winstrol at 50 mgs. i think when you are cutting, and trying to maintain the fitness physique look.. the simpler the better. dont over complicate the cycle, eat right, train right, and get a sweet tan. any kind of cutting compound or cycle u will choose to run will just add to the cut and definition.
 
Thanks for the insight and knowledge on this stuff, like i said ive never used before, so this is all good stuff to know, i might just hold off on the test prop in that case for in the future and just use winstrol
 
Thanks for the insight and knowledge on this stuff, like i said ive never used before, so this is all good stuff to know, i might just hold off on the test prop in that case for in the future and just use winstrol


i think that would be a great option... just winnie as a standalone...
 
Actually i like the way you set up this cycle, i will go ahead and do this one. So the aromasin will keep stuff under control while on the cycle? Thats all i should be taking right?

that entire set up is not good...

winny for 10 week? your joints will be so fucked and you don't run orals that long man...

1-8 test prop 150 mg eod
1-8 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
3-8 winnie 50 mg day
3-8 n2guard
3-8 hcgenerate

pct
9-12 clomid 25/25/25/25
9-12 unleashed/post cycle combo
9-12 forma stanzol
9-12 daa powerchews or powder
 
i think running masteron along with that will have great benefits.. prop and mast, with winnie on the back end. if u do a good job of getting rid of all your water, when it comes time for the show.. i don't think it would be possible to be any more shredded.
 
Oh and by the way, could i do test prop 75-100mg eod instead, no experience so would like to see how my body responds to that first

I will also be using HGH 2IU-4IU ed starting next week, that would be helpful right?
 
sorry, forgot to add this as i just realized test prop is so expensive. 100mg for $35, thats 35$ every other day, adds up and not sure if i can afford that right now, could i use something different?
 
that's debatable. the next best choice for test would be test enanthate, and really for best results u need to run it longer than 8 weeks. and also the longer estered tests add a little more water than prop. i think your best bet will be just doing a quick winnie cycle for 6 weeks up until your contest. if your body fat is low enough it will give awesome results.
 
i just looked at the pricing of what u said and realized it didn't make sense. most like it is $35 for a 10 ml vial dosed at 100 mg/ml. therefore having 10 "servings" in the vial.
 
Kewl, thanks man, thats what i will do for now until after competion, should i be taking anything like anti estrogens or whatnot during, and how should my PCT look? I will run it when im 6 weeks out from my comp so that way i could be on stage right before PCT takes place.

that's debatable. the next best choice for test would be test enanthate, and really for best results u need to run it longer than 8 weeks. and also the longer estered tests add a little more water than prop. i think your best bet will be just doing a quick winnie cycle for 6 weeks up until your contest. if your body fat is low enough it will give awesome results.
 
Ohhhhh, i see. In that case it would be very affordable for me, so i should try it out in that case, What you think? Competition is OCT 27

i just looked at the pricing of what u said and realized it didn't make sense. most like it is $35 for a 10 ml vial dosed at 100 mg/ml. therefore having 10 "servings" in the vial.
 
winnie isn't really known for estro related sides, so i dont think u will need an ai. but better have one on hand just in case.. better safe than sorry. winnie can be brutal on your joints so make sure you take some supports supps for that. for your pct, i am not totally sure what to recommend because i dont think 6 weeks of winnie will shut you down all the way.. u will need to run a pct.. im just not sure how much of a pct. better let dylan handle this one

i think the winnie only cycle actually works out to be an excellent first cycle for you. good luck at your show !!

o and u will need some liver support
 
its hard to choose one or the other, the test prop will give u a little bit more size. but the way winnie fits into the schedule kind of makes it seem like it was meant to be haha

its really up to you tho, both will yield great results
 
Ok thanks man!

winnie isn't really known for estro related sides, so i dont think u will need an ai. but better have one on hand just in case.. better safe than sorry. winnie can be brutal on your joints so make sure you take some supports supps for that. for your pct, i am not totally sure what to recommend because i dont think 6 weeks of winnie will shut you down all the way.. u will need to run a pct.. im just not sure how much of a pct. better let dylan handle this one

i think the winnie only cycle actually works out to be an excellent first cycle for you. good luck at your show !!

o and u will need some liver support
 
make sure u keep steady tabs on your weight, water, and body fat percentage throughout the cycle. prepping for a show while on gear is a different science then doing it natural, but not too hard to figure out. best of luck to you !!
 
Thank you bro, really looking forward to stepping on stage, my physique is well defined right now and not far from contest ready so hoping to add a little more muscle before then. . By the way should i get some kind of special shampoo or something to help prevent hair loss? Any suggestions?

make sure u keep steady tabs on your weight, water, and body fat percentage throughout the cycle. prepping for a show while on gear is a different science then doing it natural, but not too hard to figure out. best of luck to you !!
 
depends on if you are prone to hair loss.. if you are worried about losing some hair it wouldn't hurt. i know NTBM makes a shampoo that is suppose to help against hair loss. I've never used it but their products are legit so that would be a good option. Or you could pick up finastride and run that with the cycle. i dont think hair loss tho will be a big concern.
 
kewl, i will probably use it just in case. Im obviously going to be using EFA's, Glucosamine, and some kind of liver support. . missing anything?

depends on if you are prone to hair loss.. if you are worried about losing some hair it wouldn't hurt. i know NTBM makes a shampoo that is suppose to help against hair loss. I've never used it but their products are legit so that would be a good option. Or you could pick up finastride and run that with the cycle. i dont think hair loss tho will be a big concern.
 
better safe than sorry. everything looks good to me and in place. might want to finalize everything in one area with all the gear and support supps to make it easier to see. that way other members can see the final project and give there opinions.
 
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