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6oxo on its own

Yeo

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Just wondering what kind of results to expect from 6oxo, I really want to try 1AD but think it's probably wise to wait as I've only been training for a year and a half 135 pounds 5'9" and I'm 22. Is 6oxo worth it?
 
6oxo acts as an anti-estrogen and to restore supressed testosterone post cycle.

If you have not done any 1-AD you don't need 6oxo, do you have gyno?
 
I say dont wait.

you've been training a year and a half. you should know what your doing by now, and have a pretty good grasp of diet and excercise.

At that wieght, Ive gotta ask, hows your diet?

and if your going to do a PH cycle do it right. something along the lines of 800mg/d of andro-spray and 400mg/d of 1AD for a minimum of 6 weeks. make sure to have proper post cycle supps. you can get clomid and arimidex on-line from stores in the US. If you want to keep out of the grey market, make sure to use 6-OXO and 4-OHT(formasin). run your post cycle sups for 3-6 weeks along with creatine and an ECA stack to aid in energy. this would also be a good time for extra ALA to help glucos heading into the muscles and not lipocytes.

let me know if you need any help.:)
 
Thanks for the advice flash, that's what confuses me though, why would I need anti e's if there's no aromatizing from 1AD or does 4AD convert to estrogen ? So phs will affect my natural test levels then also what is an ECA stack ?
 
They market 1-AD and even 4-AD somewhat as not aromatizing to estrogen very easily, but that doesn't mean that it cannot (4-AD moreso than 1-AD). Not only for it's anti-estrogen effects, you'll need 6oxo to restore you natural test production because YES 1-AD will suppress your natural test levels, if you don't take something post-cycle you'll very much likely crash pretty hard and lose your gains................do a search for 1-ad, you'll see what people have to say.
 
Thanks gsxr1000, I have done a seach on it and found some pretty useful info. When your natural test levels drop, if you didn't do anything post cycle would they go back to normal after a while ? Also I can't really afford the 4AD so what are the advantages of taking it along with 1AD.
 
When your natural test levels drop, if you didn't do anything post cycle would they go back to normal after a while ?
-Yeo

yes, eventually T levels will go back to normal. during this time, which could be anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months, you'll be lethargic, possibly a little depressed, and could lose some or all of the mass gained.

This is where an ECA stack comes in. It will boost your energy levels.

I'd also start using creatine at this time. it will hep recovery post workout and help offset some of the inevitable post-cycle catabolism.

Also I can't really afford the 4AD so what are the advantages of taking it along with 1AD.
-Yeo

Better gains, and better mood. To save money use half the recomended dose for andro-spray; 400mg/d will still yield a better mood and to a smaller degree better gains than not using 4-AD.
 
Yeo said:
Just wondering what kind of results to expect from 6oxo, I really want to try 1AD but think it's probably wise to wait as I've only been training for a year and a half 135 pounds 5'9" and I'm 22. Is 6oxo worth it?

you can get nolvadex or clomid cheaper, and there is no question that they work.
 
Abut my diet flash, I get 180-200g of protein a day don't really count carbs or fat though I probably should cos I don't think I am getting enough carbs. I get 160 from NLarge, I concentrate on getting protein so much that I tend to neglect carbs. Everyone talks about protein is what is needed to build muscle but how important are carbs ?
 
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