6-8 week cutter

[thebigoz]

Definitely running with the tren this cycle. It is tailor made for my goals. I think the compound choice is right for me.

The Tren AND Var dosage will start at the mentioned amount (50/60) and taper up pending results. I will make sure to have enough to up the dosage of Tren to 75mg and Var to 80mg for at least 5-6 weeks, while running 50/60 for the start. I think I'll start the Var at 60, rather than 40.

I don't want to touch Clen/T3 this time around. I've run both plenty in the past and am not a fan for multiple reasons. If I decide during the cycle that I want to add them for the last 4 weeks, I might. At this point, they are staying out.


PCT will be PP's TRS/Unleashed/Post-Cycle.

 

[HAYEZ]

Again, and again, tren acetate is a 2 day ester and prop is a 3 day ester. EOD is just FINE. Why you want to be a pincusion for no reason at all? Your not running suspension.

shoting both ed equals less sides...i shoot tren ed and i dont get any sides anymore..no night sweats no anxiety not anything...

 

[housemusik83]

shoting both ed equals less sides...i shoot tren ed and i dont get any sides anymore..no night sweats no anxiety not anything...

shooting tren for years and years i think your body adjusts to it therefor no more sides hahahaha

 

[HAYEZ]

shooting tren for years and years i think your body adjusts to it therefor no more sides hahahaha

lol ive only ran tren a year now..i take a few weeks off here and there..lol..good to go...

 

[thebigoz]

what type of pct is that, you are using otc supplements after taking the most suppressive steroid we use, not a good idea bro

how bout a nolva, clomid, hcg pct

What type of PCT is it? A perfectly acceptable one would jump starting natural test production and maintaining results from your cycle. That's what kind.

I use HCG during cycle.

I always have ancillaries on-hand. They are a given - I don't consider them part of my PCT. If I find I need them during PCT, then fine. The above PCT is perfectly fine.

Since when does being an OTC product mean it's no good for PCT?....

You will find A LOT of people around here using these for PCT and getting/maintaining great results.

 

[Mumpleaser]

Sorry to butt in thebigoz, but I am going to run the same cycle as you in a few weeks but with 100mg propp and 100mg tren a EoD for 8 weeks. I will be using hcg during my cycle to keep the balls ticking over and then pct using nolva only. My question is related to proggyno - do you need to be prone to gyno to be affected by this side or can it affect anyone?

I mean some people don't lose any hair at all regardless of what gear they are using - others lose hair very quickly. Dostinex is at hand but I just want to know the likelyhood of being affected. Any help greatly appreciated!

 

[thebigoz]

OK - I think I have my dosages down and also the frequency of pinning. I'm good to go now.

Thanks guys!

 

[Mumpleaser]

well progestrone related gyno and hair loss are two different things, so i'll address them separately, progestrone related gyno is caused by 19nors (as they can't caused estrogen related gyno since they very very slightly aromatize), you do not have to be gyno prone to get this side but if you are then it increases the chance of you getting it

hair loss is mostly present with DHT derived steroids but not always as it can be triggered by the conversion of testosterone to DHT through the enzyme 5 alpha reductase

do you have a history of male pattern baldness in your family? if so then your chances of hairloss are elevated

Thanks for taking the time Phate1! There is no history of male pattern baldness in my family and I have never lost any hair during previous cycles so I think I am ok there.

It's the prog gyno I am more worried about. I have run deca/dbol before and not had any gyno trouble but I am worried about tren as I have never run it before and especially worried about progestrone related gyno. So I don't think I'm prone to gyno but I will try and get hold of some bromo or caber.

Which is best in your opinion? I have been having real trouble finding them in europe - would low dose letro be helpful IF I start to get sensitive nips during the cycle? I heard that letro reduces all types of estrogen and even progestrone. True?

Sorry for all the questions

 

[Mumpleaser]

Bump!