5th cycle - Sust/prop/IGF-1

[Who am I]

The Cycle:
2 x 500mg sust EOD (Frontload)
1-9 250mg sust EOD
4-8 IGF-1 Lr3 50mcg E3D
5-8 500iu HCG EOD
10-11 100mg Prop EOD
0-11 1mg Arimidex EOD
PCT:
12 40mg Nolvadex ED x 25mg Aromasin ED x 2500 iu HCG E5D
13 40mg Nolvadex ED x 25mg Aromasin ED x 2500 iu HCG E5D
14 30mg Nolvadex ED x 25mg Aromasin ED
15 20mg Nolvadex ED x 25mg Aromasin ED

The prop will overlap the sust, so I still do eod injections.. Meaning of this so I will not have the test level falling down from the slow ester in the sust.. So pct starts 3 days after last shot prop and 20 days after last sustanon shoot (halflifes match perfect). The IGF-1 is just a rest I have from a another cycle..
Can I make it better ? Regards from Denmark..

 

[Para_Shoot]

Sust EOD? What is the purpose? I don't even see other guys doing Enanthate or Cyp EOD.

 

[Who am I]

To get the maximum out off all 4 esters.. I have sent you a pm where you can read why it`s best to take EOD - NO you don`t have too run test E/C eod that enough with 2 x ew - too keep bloodlevels stabile - But sustanon has fast acting ester as propionate and phenylpropionate with only a short halflife..

 

[Who am I]

Bump..

 

[Who am I]

Bump ???

 

[rambleon]

Is the question whether u can make it better with what u have or with whatever comes to mind?

I like the basic setup. The hcg is spaced out correctly to my mind and the prop will make for a sharper cutoff from the test. There is both advantages and disadvantages to that but overall sust takes so long to get out of the body (due to the test undecanoate obv) that the gradient is too flat IMO. I like the idea of compensating with some prop.

I would move the Igf one week forward so it'd be 3-7 because i think ur plasma levels from the test will already be very high at week 3 and then u'd have one extra week of test to make those new cells grow.

Ultimately the answer to ur question depends on ur goals. The layout u describe can produce very different results depending on diet so whether or not to consider adding another compound to the mix is hard to say without knowing more about stats, goals and history.

Good luck

 

[Who am I]

The last cycle I was runny was a cut cycle 5 months ago so my receptor is fresh..


1-6 200mg prop EOD
2-6 IGF-1 lr3 50mcg E3D
2-6 100mg winny ED
0-6 1mg arimidex EOD
PCT

This was a GREAT cycle.. I was so ripped @ the beach -- Total Headturner..

This sustanon cycle is a bulk cycle and I am in 800 kcal overload ED
84 kg - 8.7 bf % 177 cm
Traning 6 times a week..
Sleep 12 hours ED

 

[Unit 2005]

Id swtich it up a little. Frontload with the prop. You made a comment about the esters in sustanon and the whole EOD thing. Does'nt make a massive difference to be honest. If you are taking 1000mg + then you will notice but anything below 1000mg a week and its not really going to show much of an improvement. The prop content is so tiny in 250mg of sust (30mg) that its not worth stressing about too much. EOD works wonders if you are taking 500mg each time, because you are getting 60mg of prop each time.

Better ways to frontload sustanon at lower (well normal!) dosages:-

Do the EOD sust but include 50-100mg of prop in each shot. That will have the same effect as the higher sustanon EOD. You already have the prop....id use it this way. Better results - QUICKER!

 

[Who am I]

Then it would cost the same for me.. prop and sustanon is the same price.. So then I would run 500mg sust EOD.. But I think that is way overkill.. I will tap off with the prop @ 100mg ED and I have a diffrent setup for the HCG and IGF-1 so the cycle will be like this now - BTW I am in week 2 now.. Couldent wait

2 x 500mg Sust EOD (Frontload)
1-9 250mg Sust EOD
4-8 IGF-1 Lr3 20mcg ED
4-11 500iu HCG EOD
10-11 100mg Prop ED
0-11 1mg Arimidex EOD
PCT:
12-15 20mg Nolvadex ED x 25mg Aromasin ED

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Are you using the IGF-1 bi-lateral ? and i like the idea of sooner with it in your cycle.


Brad.

 

[Who am I]

Yes, i shoot IGF-1 bi-lateral.. In different muscles - Last time I run the igf-1 lr3 PWO, but I have been reading ALOT about it and I will shoot it 4-5 H before traning - Because thats the time it peaks with the micro dose I am using with the large amount of test..

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Be interested to see how it works for local cell grow that way , I have not heard of that ,I will have to brush up on the new info around maybe try it myself.

Brad.


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