it depends but winstrol is usually wasted if the dose isn't high enough. you could do 50 eod, my friend just did winny for 2 years staight intramuscular, he is dumb and stubborn but his liver is fine, he is 6 foot 205 5%bf, it worked for him at that dose but he is a freak. i need 50ed for any effect and 75mg ed is best. just get more vials they are half the price