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5 hunters gunned down over a deer....

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Police: Dispute over deer stand apparently led to killings
Monday, November 22, 2004 Posted: 3:24 AM EST (0824 GMT)


Emergency personnel gather near the shooting scene Sunday.
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(CNN) -- Sheriff's deputies are investigating the killings of five hunters Sunday in northwest Wisconsin -- bloodshed apparently sparked by a dispute over a hunting spot. A suspect has been arrested.

"This is completely nuts," said Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle of the Sawyer County Sheriff's Department. "Why? I mean, five people dead because somebody was trespassing on property. It makes no sense."

Three others were wounded, said Julie Veness, an emergency medical technician in Exeland, Wisconsin.

Saturday marked the opening of the nine-day deer season, and Veness said the shootings appeared to stem from a dispute over a deer stand -- an elevated position from which hunters can target deer.

"Apparently, the person was asked to leave and get out of his deer stand, and he didn't take it very well and he fired away at them," she said.

The suspect apparently got lost in the woods after the rampage. He was led out by a pair of hunters who were not aware of the shootings, according to Zeigle.

"We were very thankful to take him into custody. No one else got hurt," Zeigle said. "When he was taken into custody, his gun was empty."

Jennifer Greshowak, a spokeswoman for Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake, said three men from the same hunting party were brought to that facility after suffering gunshot wounds. One of the three was transferred to a hospital in nearby Marshfield, she said.

The other two -- identified by relatives as Denny Drew and Lauren Hesebeck -- were recovering from surgery at Lakeview. Drew was in serious condition, while Hesebeck was listed in fair condition, their families said in a statement issued Sunday night.

"Our families certainly appreciate the thoughts and prayers of this close-knit community, and encourage you to think and pray for the other families involved," the statement said.

Veness said the killings have shocked Exeland, a village of 219 people about 135 miles northeast of Minneapolis.

"It just doesn't happen in this neck of the woods," she said. "We don't expect any of this to happen."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/22/hunters.slain/index.html
 
in an unrelated story.....Hunting is not a sport, hunters have high powered rifles and miltary like camo. I am not totally opposed to hunting. when an animals have totally overpopulated an area a certain amount of hunting is OK. But killing a bear's ect is stupid.
 
Yeah, this was a pretty big deal on the news here, considering I am from Wisconsin. Good thing that fucker was a gopher and not a badger. Oh, and IWouldSlamYou, hunting is very much a sport. Your comments would be like saying that bodybuilding isn't a sport because we have juice and we have good protein sources. The guns cammo are only tools to help you. You still have to be able to hit the target. And sitting still for 8 hours in a tree not being able to move or talk often is definitely physically taxing.
 
I don't hunt, but I don't see why any meat eating human can say it is bad. As long as they eat the animal it is better then getting some farm raised meat from the grocery store. At least they had a fair chance at life...........you see a field of cows and chickems........you know they're ALL gonna end up on a dinner plate.
 
Testosterone boy said:
He was in a stand on private land. Had nothing to do with any particular deer.

Keep your day job Manny.
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They explained on TV that a dispute started over a deer. In any case, that's fucked up...
 
manny78 said:
They explained on TV that a dispute started over a deer. In any case, that's fucked up...
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deer stand, in a tree..not a deer...basically the guy was in someone elses stand on someone elses property, they confronted him like anyone would and the guy turned out to be a nut and shot them and chased and shot everyone else who was there.
 
NJjuice22 said:
deer stand, in a tree..not a deer...basically the guy was in someone elses stand on someone elses property, they confronted him like anyone would and the guy turned out to be a nut and shot them and chased and shot everyone else who was there.
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Then TV news guy are stupid.
 
I think animal population control is necessary but I don't think I could shoot a non predatory animal.
 
Dial_tone said:
I think animal population control is necessary but I don't think I could shoot a non predatory animal.
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Predators aren't good to eat.

What's a better death, if you're a deer -- to be shot by a hunter, or to be mauled and eaten by a bear, wolf, or big cat?
 
I would not be surprised to see something like this result in some sort of governmental regulation towards hunting.Sounds like the type of stuff their mouths water over.
 
Yeah they must have been dumb as hell not to have shot back - ? It said 5 were wounded, how can one man shoot 5 guys without them shooting back
 
ChewYxRage said:
Yeah they must have been dumb as hell not to have shot back - ? It said 5 were wounded, how can one man shoot 5 guys without them shooting back
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I heard it was two guys argueing with the guy in the stand (wasn't his stand). He then began shooting them. A nearby hunter had a walkie talkie to the hunting station nearby. The remaining 3 people who got shot were from the station coming to check it out and help.

At least that's what they said on the radio this morning.
 
alien amp pharm said:
I heard it was two guys argueing with the guy in the stand (wasn't his stand). He then began shooting them. A nearby hunter had a walkie talkie to the hunting station nearby. The remaining 3 people who got shot were from the station coming to check it out and help.

At least that's what they said on the radio this morning.
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Were you in the my car hiding again.. I swear I thought I checked the back seat :worried:
 
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Everyone already said - it wasn't about a "deer" but about a deer stand on private property.

Here's another link:

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S4381.html?cat=1

The confrontation began around noon in a rural area southwestern Sawyer County. Authorities said a hunting party returning to their deer shack saw a hunter unknown to them occupying one of their tree stands. They confronted the hunter, and were apparently shot.
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pfffft...
If I caught some fool(s) in one of my hot spots or stands :mad:
I prolly won't kill them, but they are gonna be squealing like a pig :Boomstick
 
Frisky said:
Were you in the my car hiding again.. I swear I thought I checked the back seat :worried:
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Did you hear me chuckling at your singing?

p.s. Will you wear the red nighty tonight? If I'm gonna stand out in the cold spying on you it's the least you could do.
 
I'm surprised that sort of thing doesn't happen more often. Around here guys will climb the tree with their gun, and a six pack. That's just the perfect mix. :insane:
 
alien amp pharm said:
Did you hear me chuckling at your singing?

p.s. Will you wear the red nighty tonight? If I'm gonna stand out in the cold spying on you it's the least you could do.
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Yes I did.. I though it was a squeaky seat..

The red one? why the red one? (oh.. and ps.. its not cold here yet *wink*)
 
Poor NRA will now have a tough time explaining this one.

Still can't believe all those hunters were so lousy at shooting they couldn't duck for cover and return fire. He never would have been able to pull that off with military dudes somewhere. Must've been old geezers.
 
I bet not one of these guys had nipples in their foreheads.

Just saying.....
 
apparently there was only one weapon amongst the group being shot at
 
"About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the man or who might have shot first, Zeigle said. There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said."
 
THe problem I have with many hunters, is the hard on that they have for killing things. I could get no joy out of hunting down a life and extinguishing it. The Indians use to apologize to the Buffalo before they killed them. THey had respect for life. White man sux. Maybe some day, they will become the hunted.
 
4everhung said:
"About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the man or who might have shot first, Zeigle said. There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said."
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20 shots and 8 men hit. Not that bad. I've seen cops doing a lot worse...
 
Razorguns said:
This chinese guy needs to be sent to iraq. That's some damn fine killing skills he's got.
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And dont tell me he did it with a bolt-action cuz that would be a fine sniper...
 
manny78 said:
And dont tell me he did it with a bolt-action cuz that would be a fine sniper...
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I believe it was a SKS semi auto. I hope they turn this guy over to the good ol' boys. They will make sure restitution is made slowly.

I also recall one of the victims was female.
 
Austin316 said:
Not a minnesotan either dude was from Laos, he just lives here sadly
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Ah yes, the results of forced multiculturalism. Do Laotians really belong in Minnisota? Would never have happpend if different cultures were not forced to live together.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
I would not be surprised to see something like this result in some sort of governmental regulation towards hunting.Sounds like the type of stuff their mouths water over.
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How much do you want to bet that the Laotian guy will be set free because the white guys were disrespecting his "culture", thus justifying him shooting those white racists.
 
ChewYxRage said:
Yeah they must have been dumb as hell not to have shot back - ? It said 5 were wounded, how can one man shoot 5 guys without them shooting back
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That's what I was wondering even though he had the advantage of an elelated position(I loved that line from the Rock) , he still probably had a bolt action rifle seems like they had plenty of time to get at least 2 shots off and since deer blinds are mad of thin plywood they probably should have been able to hit him. Those other hunters aren't very good killers in my opinion. I mean why have a gun if you don't use it when being threatened.
 
you guys who think this is a 'hunting' issue are misguided. It's all about culture and the incompatibility of certain cultures to live together.
 
Wait a minute I just read another story on it. He was already down from the deer blind and just started shooting at the other hunters. Turns out he was viet cong. He must have been charley in nam and was having a flash back and started shooting americans. The other hunters did fire back at him but missed. I hope they fry this rice eater.
 
I have been hunting my whole life and had seen some heated battles over stupid shit like tree stands, and I always thought something like this could happen. But Im really curious as to what the argument was about, or if this guy was even a hunter. I never heard of a Chinese guy hunting, especially with an SKS.
 
I figured a racial slur was involved
also it's now been mentioned he's x-US military
 
sure can
part of my job is to draw blood and urine from car accident victims
sometimes not an easy task
if the survivors are above legally intoxicated,their story isn't going to be as strong
problem is the authorities may not have administered the appopriate tests and/or did so after too much of a time interval
despite what is claimed,I'm positive massive adrenalin will metabolize alcohol at a faster rate than normal
doesn't excuse Vang from going "postal"
but if they so much as find one spent shell casing from the victim's party in the area his defense can be constructed
as for them being mostly unarmed
how was he to know that?
they shot,he shot,he was outnumbered,so as he was trained to do,he started taking out potential assailants
he did too good of a job?
 
curling said:
Wait a minute I just read another story on it. He was already down from the deer blind and just started shooting at the other hunters. Turns out he was viet cong. He must have been charley in nam and was having a flash back and started shooting americans. The other hunters did fire back at him but missed. I hope they fry this rice eater.
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he was a US army veteran
 
Whole thing is pretty fucked up!!

iwouldslamu, hunting is a sport and not always done with high powered rifles.

MR DB, Predators do taste good, depends on time of year and where they're shot. (bear eating salmon,..yuck. Bear eating berries in high elevations,..YUMM!!) Cougar is not to bad either.

I've hunted all my life and guide both hunters and fisherman now for a living. Nothing is killed that will not be eaten. I dont eat all that much beef but then again I dont need to and if I do its one of my own. Freezer is always filled each year with deer, elk, caribou, or moose, duck, goose, grouse and salmon... and yes even bear.

Prefered hunting method for me is with a traditional bow!!
 
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