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4th cycle please critique

fugetaboutit

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Alright guys, I have done three cycles already (two with great success, one so-so) and now I'm going for my best cycle yet. My stats are 186lbs, 5'9, 11% BF , diet is in check, plenty of sleep every night....go to go. Check it out

10 weeker:
wk 1-10 Test Decaonate 600mg/wk
wk 1-4 D-Bol 40mg's/day
wk 1-10 Deca 300mg/wk
wk 6-10 winny 40mg/day
wk 10-12 PCT Nolv, A-dex, hcg

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Should I incorporate the hcg mid-cycle or at the end......or both?
 
fugetaboutit said:
Alright guys, I have done three cycles already (two with great success, one so-so) and now I'm going for my best cycle yet. My stats are 186lbs, 5'9, 11% BF , diet is in check, plenty of sleep every night....go to go. Check it out

10 weeker:
wk 1-10 Test Decaonate 600mg/wk
wk 1-4 D-Bol 40mg's/day
wk 1-10 Deca 300mg/wk
wk 6-10 winny 40mg/day
wk 10-12 PCT Nolv, A-dex, hcg

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Should I incorporate the hcg mid-cycle or at the end......or both?

Only thing I'd suggest is swapping out the deca for tren eth.
 
Outtlaw said:
I'd probably drop the winny

drop the winny huh? You don't think I could use it to harden me up a bit after a little (or a lot) water retention from the test and deca, maybe say...
wks 8- 11 ( a week longer than the test and deca)?
 
i would do no less than 400 of deca, especially your 4th cycle, unless its just for your joints
 
fugetaboutit said:
drop the winny huh? You don't think I could use it to harden me up a bit after a little (or a lot) water retention from the test and deca, maybe say...
wks 8- 11 ( a week longer than the test and deca)?
You could use it if you really wanted to, wks 8-12 would be better. I dont think it's gonna do much for bloat. I'd just as well leave it out and do 400mg of the deca. But it's your choice.
 
fugetaboutit said:
drop the winny huh? You don't think I could use it to harden me up a bit after a little (or a lot) water retention from the test and deca, maybe say...
wks 8- 11 ( a week longer than the test and deca)?

You didn't say if you've ever tried to bulk then cut in the same cycle. I tried it once with sust + dbol then sust + winny and it just didn't work for me. It may yield greater results if you run adex throughout to keep the bloat off, but after 4+ weeks of dbol I get so bloated there's really nothing to "cut". Some bros don't experience bloat at all, so winny would work well, but personally I'm better off keeping bulkers and cutters as separate cycles. You'll know best when you're getting to the tail end of dbol.
 
I think it looks good. You won't know if its a good cycle until you try it. And since you have had a few good and a few bad you will easily tell the difference.

I would recommend you consider going 12 weeks on the injects and lower the test, unless you know that you want 600mgs. Have you tried 500mgs yet. Have you stacked with 900mgs per week before? If so go with it, but try 12 weeks. If you do 12 then go with winny 8-12 and start pct on week 14.
 
if i had the choice. it would be drop the winny and replace it with tren. but run the tren the same length as the test. and deca. use the d-bol from 1-4, off during the middle 4 weeks, then run it again the last 4. then run another cycle where you can do winny, maybe some e.q. prop. and maybe some other non aromatizing androgen like masteron. start the e.q. 3 weeks before the end of the first cycle. the prop. will work quick and hold a good bit till the e.q. and all else kicks in. you could throw in t-bol on the last one to.
 
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