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4ever ... question about dead peeps

PICK3

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do they ever move?

aren't there muscle contractions?

if so ... does it freak you the fuck out?
 
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wtf?
 
good question.

where's spart?

i heard dead people pass gas too.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
You little necro you.

Sounds like he is having sex with HR.
 
I have to take my state life insurance license exams in an hour
gotta go
 
curvymommy said:
I am so glad you're not mean to me. I admire her that she can take it though. lol

She knows the truth is the exact opposite of whatever I say about her. And, she has a good sense of humor.


I am breaking you in slowly. :evil:
 
all the whey said:
She knows the truth is the exact opposite of whatever I say about her. And, she has a good sense of humor.


I am breaking you in slowly. :evil:
Ok, whenever you start busting out your true meaness on me I'll try to remember that it's opposites day, hehehh :mix: .
 
Spartacus said:
yes
and other times they do what we call "making a push"

we have A/V plugs for that


wtf?

sounds like you basically stick a giant cork in their ass.
 
They do moan shortly after death. They call it a death moan or something. My brother did it and my mom didn't even know he was dead. thought he was snoring. it's like the air and or gas escaping from the lungs.
 
All of their muscles die and what is left in the colorectal area comes on out...They put pluggies in dead peoples asses, they also do that before lethal injections.
 
Spartacus said:
yes
and other times they do what we call "making a push"

we have A/V plugs for that
A/V plugs?

so they crap at the funeral home somtimes!!! gross
 
Angel said:
All of their muscles die and what is left in the colorectal area comes on out...They put pluggies in dead peoples asses, they also do that before lethal injections.
wow, so if you are getting excuted via lethal injection they cork your ass!! how demeaning!
 
hardrock said:
They do moan shortly after death. They call it a death moan or something. My brother did it and my mom didn't even know he was dead. thought he was snoring. it's like the air and or gas escaping from the lungs.

Prolly agonal respirations. That's when they are almost or very newly dead. Never seen one do it after they had been dead awhile....but Spart would know more about it than me. I'm usually not around peeps if they have been dead for long.
 
hardrock said:
They do moan shortly after death. They call it a death moan or something. My brother did it and my mom didn't even know he was dead. thought he was snoring. it's like the air and or gas escaping from the lungs.
"death rattle"
 
Lestat said:
A/V plugs?

so they crap at the funeral home somtimes!!! gross
during embalming
we use the plugs to arrest that action before they're dressed and casketed
we can't have any foul odors
 
myway said:
Prolly agonal respirations. That's when they are almost or very newly dead. Never seen one do it after they had been dead awhile....but Spart would know more about it than me. I'm usually not around peeps if they have been dead for long.
I'm usually not around when they're alive

one time we could tell this family really wanted grandma to pass before a big holiday weekend
 
Spartacus said:
yes
and other times they do what we call "making a push"

we have A/V plugs for that


I'm guessing that's "anal/vaginal" and not "audio/video" correct.
 
Lestat said:
wow, so if you are getting excuted via lethal injection they cork your ass!! how demeaning!

Maybe that's where the term "stick a cork in it" comes from.
 
Spartacus said:
during embalming
we use the plugs to arrest that action before they're dressed and casketed
we can't have any foul odors

You don't take all that shit out at all, like during autopsies? Or are most corpses just dealt with quickly if the cause of death is obvious.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
You don't take all that shit out at all, like during autopsies? Or are most corpses just dealt with quickly if the cause of death is obvious.
about 1 in 40 is autopsied
in an autopsied body I remove all the internal organs and soak them in a preservative solution while I attend to the rest of the body.
when I'm finished I take those organs and put them back and suture up

the mesentery and intestines is all tangled up but typically it isn't ruptured
 
Spartacus said:
"death rattle"
That shit used to always scare the crap out of me. I hated hearing it. They die but they keep on breathing as if they are sleeping..We could always tell when we were losing someone because of the rattle before they die, and after.
 
Angel said:
That shit used to always scare the crap out of me. I hated hearing it. They die but they keep on breathing as if they are sleeping..We could always tell when we were losing someone because of the rattle before they die, and after.

knot after :rolleyes:
 
Spartacus said:
I'm usually not around when they're alive

one time we could tell this family really wanted grandma to pass before a big holiday weekend

Did u hear about the paramedics in the news...pronounced a guy dead after an MVC..had the body picked up..... medical examiner found a pulse. Man recovered and sued. Crazy stuff.
 
Spartacus said:
I might run for county coroner eventually

Dude, you've got balls to do that shit.

I couldnt stand to look at another dead body when I held my grandfather in my hands after he died and he was all blue.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigor_mortis

body does "move". But the body does not "move".

Kinda like this: if you see a deer on the side of the road in the morning, the body might be limp and the legs are lying in a natual position. On the way home, the same deer has its legs stuck out straight as a board. The next morning, the legs are limp again, with the legs lying back down in a natural position.

I only encounter rigor and lividity, with 45's (DOA's). Normally, someone passes away sometime in the middle of the night. Then the spouse wakes up in the morning, gets coffee, etc and the realizes their spouse must of overslept. Then go check on them and find out they are dead. Call 911 and try to begin CPR. We get there and take over CPR and find that the body is stiff as a board, connect the EKG and find asystole. DNR orders are called for and the coroner comes.

I have never seen muscle twitching personally, only in the movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respirations

I have seen agonal respirations several times. Sounds like moaning, grunting, snoring (caused by the tongue) and sometimes gurgling, etc.
The call normally goes out as Unresponsive/ Repiratory distress. Well with agonal resp. the patient normally goes into resp. arrest shortly after. So rescue breathing is a must either way. CPR is initiated once there is no pulse or a very slow pulse is detected.
 
firefighter337 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigor_mortis

body does "move". But the body does not "move".

Kinda like this: if you see a deer on the side of the road in the morning, the body might be limp and the legs are lying in a natual position. On the way home, the same deer has its legs stuck out straight as a board. The next morning, the legs are limp again, with the legs lying back down in a natural position.

I only encounter rigor and lividity, with 45's (DOA's). Normally, someone passes away sometime in the middle of the night. Then the spouse wakes up in the morning, gets coffee, etc and the realizes their spouse must of overslept. Then go check on them and find out they are dead. Call 911 and try to begin CPR. We get there and take over CPR and find that the body is stiff as a board, connect the EKG and find asystole. DNR orders are called for and the coroner comes.

I have never seen muscle twitching personally, only in the movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respirations

I have seen agonal respirations several times. Sounds like moaning, grunting, snoring (caused by the tongue) and sometimes gurgling, etc.
The call normally goes out as Unresponsive/ Repiratory distress. Well with agonal resp. the patient normally goes into resp. arrest shortly after. So rescue breathing is a must either way. CPR is initiated once there is no pulse or a very slow pulse is detected.

must suck to perform CPR on someone you're pretty sure isn't coming back :(
 
rigor starts about the head and neck area
gradually moves throuhg the extremities

then rigor will 'pass' after about 48 hours

one of the first things I do before embalming is rotate the head around to loosen the neck muscles (rigor is in muscle tissue-it's a chemical thing)
I want the neck loose to free some constriction on the vessels (embalming chemicals use the circulatory system to spread within the body)
and of course to set the head in a proper position
 
PICK3 said:
must suck to perform CPR on someone you're pretty sure isn't coming back :(

Out of the 40 or so people, we have gotten 2 back. 1 of those 2, died while in transport to the hospital. I reckon the heart was just worn out. I later found out the guy had triple bi-pass surgury and a couple of heart attacks.

But sucks? Yea pretty much. Sometimes even if we know they have no chance, you do it anyway. As barbaric as it looks it helps the family with the greiving process. It is a traumatic thing for the family, it was their mom, dad, uncle, etc. Just another patient to you. Sometimes when you become "numb" to these types of calls, it is difficult to be passionate to the family.


One wild thing I have noticed. With the extreme elderly 80+, if both spouses are living and then one passes away. Normally within 6 months the other passes away. Kinda like they were holding on for them and they just give up.
 
Spartacus said:
rigor starts about the head and neck area
gradually moves throuhg the extremities

then rigor will 'pass' after about 48 hours

one of the first things I do before embalming is rotate the head around to loosen the neck muscles (rigor is in muscle tissue-it's a chemical thing)
I want the neck loose to free some constriction on the vessels (embalming chemicals use the circulatory system to spread within the body)
and of course to set the head in a proper position

I usually check the jaw. Seriously. It seems to be the first. If I respond to a call and find a stiff jaw, I just call it.
Our docs are getting really fussy about us flooding the er with a pulseless with a long down-time. Our protocol for trauma codes is really strict. If We get asystole or pea on the monitor and no signs of respirations upon arrival....we never even put them on the cot
Our protocol for medical calls is also leaning more towards less transports. Even if it is a witnessed arrest...even if we get a beat on the monitor, if we have pushed 3 rounds of drugs and the pt is intubated..... when we call the doc they tell us to just call it. Kinda makes sense because if u give Epi and atropine every 5 minutes x's 3 rounds...that's 15 minutes. Even with a witnessed arrest, it takes medics around 5-8 minutes to get there. Then, there's the 5 minutes drive to the hospital. Hell, who would wanna be brought back with that kind of down time?!?!!??!?! The only ones we usually get back are the ones we find in v-fib or v-tach. If we are gonna get back a pulse...it's usually one of them.
 
firefighter337 said:
Out of the 40 or so people, we have gotten 2 back. 1 of those 2, died while in transport to the hospital. I reckon the heart was just worn out. I later found out the guy had triple bi-pass surgury and a couple of heart attacks.

But sucks? Yea pretty much. Sometimes even if we know they have no chance, you do it anyway. As barbaric as it looks it helps the family with the greiving process. It is a traumatic thing for the family, it was their mom, dad, uncle, etc. Just another patient to you. Sometimes when you become "numb" to these types of calls, it is difficult to be passionate to the family.


One wild thing I have noticed. With the extreme elderly 80+, if both spouses are living and then one passes away. Normally within 6 months the other passes away. Kinda like they were holding on for them and they just give up.


I have 8 code-saves in 6 years. It doesn't happen as much as people think. I actually feel bad about the first guy I got back. He's a veggie, now.
The one I feel best about was an 11-year old boy(hung himself). Istill check in on him. He's now in a foster home and still needs physical therapy for spinal cord injuries...but he started walking again about a year ago.
 
myway said:
I have 8 code-saves in 6 years. It doesn't happen as much as people think. I actually feel bad about the first guy I got back. He's a veggie, now.
The one I feel best about was an 11-year old boy(hung himself). Istill check in on him. He's now in a foster home and still needs physical therapy for spinal cord injuries...but he started walking again about a year ago.

It works 95% of the time on Baywatch :confused:
 
I heard corpses sitting out in the heat will eventually explode from the gas fermenting inside them. True???
 
myway said:
Did u hear about the paramedics in the news...pronounced a guy dead after an MVC..had the body picked up..... medical examiner found a pulse. Man recovered and sued. Crazy stuff.
I don't even need make love to you
it's there
I can say the right thing while in you
you'll explode
 
RottenWillow said:
I can't even believe any municipalities still have coroners.

I could be wrong, but I think we have several. I don't get it, either. Either way, it would prolly mean big bucks for Spart.
 
myway said:
I could be wrong, but I think we have several. I don't get it, either. Either way, it would prolly mean big bucks for Spart.

The coroner system is a bizarre legacy. I think they've hung on just from political influence. You'd think everyone would agree only ME's could ever do that job.
 
RottenWillow said:
The coroner system is a bizarre legacy. I think they've hung on just from political influence. You'd think everyone would agree only ME's could ever do that job.

So true. The coroner position is probably so secure because so many things are done with the bodies. Hell, if someone dies in a nursing home at 85 years old, they don't really need a medical examiner...... but if ALL bodies were examined by an MD, Tons of nursing homes would be sued because of deaths caused by medication overdoses.... for example.
 
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