I appreciate your input,...here's where I'm coming from. I am 5'11", 230lbs, train 5 days a week with weights, machines, and cardio. I eat well, maybe a little too much fat...I'm working on it! I've been working out since I was 15, and know my way around a gym. About 2 yrs ago I begain feeling very tired, unmotivated, aimless, no libido, etc., went to see a doc. and was prescribed antidepressants. Didn't help much. I started hearing more and more about HRT and got checked out. My T levels were under 200 so I was prescribed cream. In the meantime I've spent several months researching low t and sterioids and decided to capitalize on my legit condition. I plan on having my doc. switch me to injectables so I can supplement a real cycle. I plan on remaining on the therapy after the cycle to serve as a pct...(If this is acceptable). So, in summary I think I have some clue as to what I'm doing and hope only to learn more from you more experienced forum members and report my findings if anyone is interested. It's all a process as is everything, so I'm just trying to minimize the mistakes I most assuredly will make. BTW, do any of you think that using the cream up till now will act as any base for the cycle or do you thing it will take every bit of 3-4 weeks for the accumulation of test. in my body to feel/see any changes. Thanks in advance.