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bigmusclehead
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would it be prudent for the 40 and over club to use d-bol should they ere in the side of caution and use a safer ass like t bol or var ect....lookig for opinons here.
40s and over using d bol
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At that age...I wouldn't recommend an oral only cycle bro. Oral onlys are much harder on your body and typically cause more severe side effects.
Dbol is going to cause you to hold water and will most likely give you high blood pressure which may be accompanied by headaches. At the higher age ranges, you know the risks of high blood pressure. Mine got high enough to give me nose bleeds.
I would suggest anavar...but its been shown to really fuck up your lipid profile.
I also have personal experience with Tbol, and if you have to go oral only, thats what i would suggest. No high blood pressure, no ruined lipid profile, no bloating.
But if you wanna actually do it right...you need what your body already makes. Test. Or maybe even primo.
I wouldn't if I were you.
High blood pressure and increased liver values as well as worsening cholesterol levels puts older men at greater risk for artheriosclerosis.
You can use var at a very low dose (like 20mg) with testosterone. Do not use anything that aromatizes or gives bloat, those are the ones that increase blood pressure. Even tbol gives high blood pressure and water retention, even though it is minor.
bigmusclehead
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yep i agree on the test,i wasnt impling an oral only cycle though i should have clarified that.hmm var messing with the lipid profiles??i only though winny was the culprit for that.interesting.
most the orals, if not all of them screw with your lipid profiles.
var is almost as bad, if not as bad as winny. Some people on var came back with cholesterol levels in the dirt. higher doses obviously make it worse.
The over 40 club......... LOLOLOLOL!!!
Sorry to laugh... but I didn't start gear until I was about 45.
I have used virtually every steroid out there.
Age is not as nearly as important as what kind of shape you, and your blood work are in.
Check that out first to get a baseline. Then take the appropriate liver, lipid support supps.
Dbol is a relatively harmless steroi in low doses. I have taken up to 80mg/day. I don't recommend that much. 20-40mg Dbol/ED is plenty.
congrats..
I'm 47 3 yrs ago
750mg test e
50mg dbol
and
40mg var
600mg eq
went to 216 lbs
benched 525x 4
looked like the Michelin man but strong as hell, lower back pumps so bad i couldn't play volleyball, cholesterol 375... up almost 100 points (i'm normally high anyway) mine is controlled with vytorin and naturally high with no other risk factors, so no.. i would not recommend the stack..
I'm 47 3 yrs ago
750mg test e
50mg dbol
and
40mg var
600mg eq
went to 216 lbs
benched 525x 4
looked like the Michelin man but strong as hell, lower back pumps so bad i couldn't play volleyball, cholesterol 375... up almost 100 points (i'm normally high anyway) mine is controlled with vytorin and naturally high with no other risk factors, so no.. i would not recommend the stack..
Me neither...this is more like it.
525 X 4 @ 216lbs. I find that difficult to believe .
lol i have wings and can fly also !
hahah.. doesn't matter, it's well documented but that's ok, it was hard for me to believe either..
Documented??? What? Did you have it videotaped and notarized ???
I CALL MAJOR BULLSHIT !!!
Maybe 2 or 3 guys on this whole forum can bench 525 X 4 !!!
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The over 40 club......... LOLOLOLOL!!!
Sorry to laugh... but I didn't start gear until I was about 45.
I have used virtually every steroid out there.
Age is not as nearly as important as what kind of shape you, and your blood work are in.
Check that out first to get a baseline. Then take the appropriate liver, lipid support supps.
Dbol is a relatively harmless steroi in low doses. I have taken up to 80mg/day. I don't recommend that much. 20-40mg Dbol/ED is plenty.
agreed. You beat me to it.
littleb
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I cant see 525 4 times either,, not at 216LBS ,,,,, unless... like these bros i got at my gym that put the wood blocks on thier chest so that the bar only moves like 5 inches with 2 spotters behind to re rack it,,,,,,,...no joke they will put on 450-550 lbs and do just that for a workout... ?????????????????needless too say they are all out of shape......
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Galaxy, YOU are one of the 3 bros I had in mind that BP 500+ Raw!
If we are talkin' shirt and a 4" range of motion...then I bench 655.
But my 1RM is 355 raw..... and that's ON cycle running: Test/Tren/Mast/Var.
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I've used medium dose runs of Var to finish out a test cycle and had no problems whatsover as far as Lipids/Cholesterol. I've also run a low dose Dbol Kickstart at the beginning of every cycle- again without issue.
The only oral that killed my Lipid/Cholesterol values was Superdrol. I ran that as a 3 1/2 week oral only cycle when I was 39. I used every supp imaginable - including Milk Thistle, Hawthorne Berry, AX On Cycle Liver Support, Policosonal and Cholestoff- as I'm very cautious when doing a cycle, but it really blew up my levels.
I like to err on the side of caution but if your bloodwork is good and you are physically fit, I would think adding an oral in moderation shouldn't be too problematic.
Greatercow
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damn 525 thats pretty insane im at 215 and do 1x300 raw on cycle
lookinfit75
New member
hahahaha.
While on I maxed out at 450 1RM and work out with 405 lbs. While off I work out with 315-325 and 365 1RM but I weigh 275 at 18%.
