400mg a week prescribed from Doc. Good or bad?

[Britishbomber]

Hi folks, new to this forum and some members seem very cool, knowledgeable and helpful so I had a few questions for some of you gurus...

Went to my Doctors yesterday which is actually my primary for the last few years. He's actually a neurologist that I've been seeing due to epilepsy so he's a specialist just not in the TRT world. Anyhow due to epilepsy breakout several weeks ago I'm on a medication that does leave me very sluggish and feeling low T like symptoms. He suggested I get my test levels checked, which I did.

Results came in and yes my gut feeling and his was a low test count due to probably a few things but certainly not helped by having to take anti epileptic drugs.

My total test number was 163 (super low) I'm 32, an athlete and weigh 280lbs, I just happen to have epilepsy to which is under control for the most part.

Okay to the point and here are my questions. He has prescribed me testosterone cyp weekly injections at 400mg (so 2cc's) that seems great and all and I'm glad I have such a progressive doctor because that seems like a homie hook up to me at that amount of test prescribed.

Now because it's a high amount for TRT from what I'm reading. What possible side effects might I have and what should I take (if any) to combat possible estrogen build up etc? Like I said, he's not an endo so he's open to suggestions from me.

He talked about dropping me to a lower dose after 6 weeks or so (200mg a week), is this advisable or if I can keep the amount at 400mg a week would this be a better route due to less side effects?

I guess I can't complain, it seems even some endos don't prescribe enough and here I am with a primary that wants to dose me up high due to epilepsy.

Thoughts and advice needed on this. He's a good guy and it's obviously not his field but jut want to make sure this a good thing or not. Sounds like legal juicing to me.

Thanks guys...

 

[XMAN.]

if ur blodd tests look good on 400mg then u have nothing to worry about, look mostly for the lipid panels, BP and E2 for sides , of course ur going to need an AI like Letro. or adex. as long as ur doc follows u thoroughly u have nothing to worry about. but what i advise u is to do the 400mg the first 6 or 8 weeks like doing a cycle and go down to maintain at 200mg it may be enough to relieve u of ur symptoms with less potential future sides, the 400mg boost at the beginning will be great to have a kick start and not to wait long to feel and see the benefits.

 

[Britishbomber]

Thanks for your response XMAN!

I did a follow appointment yesterday with another doctor friend of mine who is board certified in HRT and gives seminars and talks all over the country in anti aging. He was my second opinion guy, but naturally as a TRT 'expert' he tends to go more by the book of why he knows as opposed to my neurologist who goes with what I suggest lol!

Anyhow I told the HRT doc that neuro doc told me 400mg per week and he thought that was a little high and suggested 200mg (which seems like a healthy amount that even some HRT docs don't even administer without weeks of labs showing that less isn't helping).

So I guess I'm lucky because now I have two doctors and they both gave me prescriptions for test cyp. I have a choice it seems. Seeing as I have two test scripts that I can pick up and dose myself with. It's looks like I can chose between going at 200 or 400mg. perhaps I can go with 400mg a week and then when I have to get bloodwork done I can drop to 200mg for a couple of weeks to lower my levels?

Also HRT doc mentioned nothing of taking any Anti estros to take during Therepy. Just mentioned that if I wanted to have more kids down the line he could administer some HCG for the boys (although to be honest, I hbe two sons already and I'm done).

XMAN, should I mention about the stuff you talked about? I'm not really clued up on all the AI (?) for during therepy.

On a final note, HRT doc gave me 800mg yesterday during appointment!! (felt great and honestly noticed a head change and sense of well being within 5 minutes). He said not to inject for another 25 days or so but I'm tempted to go ahead and pin myself next week at the 400mg level. Is this too soon due to big initial amount of test given? How long should I wait to do another 400mg? I told him I'd like to follow a weekly schedule of injections and he agreed. Just the 4cc's threw me through a loop! (in a good way I guess) haha

Thanks for your advice, I can PM you if preferred?

 

[Britishbomber]

Forgot to mention that when I got out of HRT docs appt I happened to have a phone call from Neurologist doc and they told me that there initial thinking of 400mg a week was a little too high (he checked his book) lol!

But as you can see I basically have two prescriptions for test cyp so I have an option of doing 400mg or stocking up and just sticking to 200mg a week. Or I can do 400 and drop to 200 when needed. What to do?

 

[XMAN.]

ok first u need to inject at least once a week if not twice (which is optimal, stable hormones level) if ur doing 200mg weekly then shoot 100mg twice per week.
never ever do biweekly shots or longer periods or ur gona end up worst than b4 hrt.

second for the dosing of test i prefer if u do only 200mg/w , but as i said b4 u can accelerate things by front loading test which is what ur doing now at 400mg, take it as a small blast and make use of it with diet and exercising, but eventually u need to drop to 200mg.

it's great u have 2 scripts now for test, u can stockpile ur test for later when u want to do some future blasts (or cycles).

btw about AI's yes u need to mention it for ur doc and make him give u a script for arimidex (the weakest AI) or aromasin (very good for most issues) or Femara (letrozol the strongest of them all) and start from the minimum like adex 0.25mg/e3d to eod.

HCG is a must in hrt not only to keep the balls working but for other hormones synthesis, u need 250 iu x 2 /week with ur test shots.

if u have anything u wanna ask about these issues (HRT) and not too personal i prefer if u keep posting here so we can let others share and learn from it.

good luck.

 

[XMAN.]

another thing after finishing with 400mg and dropping back to 200mg wait for another 6 weeks to stabilize ur test level and do ur check up and post ur results here.
keep us updated bro.

 

[Britishbomber]

Thanks XMAN,
Okay I'll talk to my doc and get some AI. I thought the HCG was more in case you wanted to to have kids in future (already got enough, lol!) didn't really know it helped with synthesis of other hormone production.

I'll probably run the 400mg a week for a typical 'cycle' length then drop down to 200mg to maintain and just rinse and repeat like that as needed. Do you recommend a typical 'cycle' length of time 'on' being the same as time 'off' only difference being I'll always be on at least my maintenance dose of 200mg a week? This way I won't really have to worry about post cycle crash as I'll just drop down to 200mg to remain 'normal'

So 8 weeks at 400mgs test a week then 8 weeks at 200mg etc?

 

[XMAN.]

for recreational bodybuilding i prefer i u just stick with two 8 weeks blasts a year and a lot of time off in between, 3 blasts would be the max in case u have a certain goal in a not too long period of time.
if u were a pro BB and have to compete or be ready for a photo shoot and want to stay lean or keep gaining all the time u may do 8 weeks blasts and 8 weeks off and keep doing it all year long, u may even find some pro BB's do these blasts with even 3 or 4 weeks off time only and keep changing compounds from blast to blast and run HGH with slin all year long too, and that may keep going for years ,or even a decade.
in the end u decide what r ur goals and if u have a good ratio between the benefits and sides or potential future sides.
stay safe and don't rush anything, i know i did sometimes and regret it and learned moderation while aging.
good luck.

 

[XMAN.]

btw for dosing u have to keep experimenting starting always with the lowest doses, for test is usually 350mg at least up to 750mg for most juicers, i don't think u'll need more most probably. u may later add another mild compound like winny, dbol, primo or deca, or u can keep ur hrt test doses (200mg) and just add the other compound like 300mg of winny.

 

[rolln]

Xman following up this section right here has given me enough knowledge as well! Thanks a lot for your posts