Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I just finished a ten week cycle about 4 weeks ago, wasn't an extremely hefty cycle, highest point was 2 weeks of 2 cc of Sust and 50 mg of anadrol a day. However, the juice made me extremely restless in class. College student, kind of need to pay attention. Right now I am on winter break, would like pack on a few more lbs before I go back for spring semester. Thinking of a 6 week cycle of test, don't really care if I run it into the first two weeks of school, they are cake anyway. Really just want to know the importance of the wait between cycles, is 4 weeks too short? Everyone always told me 6 weeks or 2 months, but they were friends in high school. I have no negative side affects from the last one, no gyno, gained no unwanted fat, just a little acne on the back and shoulders.
4 weeks ok between cycles?
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twenty47
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im a noob but with all the research ive been doing id say that isnt nearly enough time to recover. most peoples pct regimens are atleast 4 weeks so youd be shooting test again on your last day of pct lol.
i see what your saying on the timing though. thats how i planned my first inject cycle. I am starting my first test cycle monday and doing 10 weeks of cyp with beast start and epi finish. that way ill only be on in the begining of the semester which is cake. just took my last final weds.
i see what your saying on the timing though. thats how i planned my first inject cycle. I am starting my first test cycle monday and doing 10 weeks of cyp with beast start and epi finish. that way ill only be on in the begining of the semester which is cake. just took my last final weds.
That isn't enough time; your body hasn't had enough time to recover from your last cycle and doing a six week cycle now would potentially seriously shut down your natural test production as well as potentially elevating BP etc to high. General rule of thumb that most people follow is at the bare minimum of the same time off as time spent on (so 10 weeks on 10 weeks off before you start your next cycle) that even is to harsh in my opinion. I would advise against it. What was your PCT?
Here is why I ask, I was expecting my clomid to be here this week, tuesday actually, and start it 4 weeks after the last shot, sust usually stays in you for 3 to 4 weeks I read, and best time for PCT was when it was completely out of your system. The clomid, coming from a always reliable source so far, should be here... sometime soon... I really don't know if, I should run a short cycle, 4 to 6 weeks until the clomid is here (safe to maybe do 2 cycles before PCT?). There is also the chance, I hate to say it, it won't arrive... then how do I get my PCT? I planned for 21 days of clomid, 600 mgs the first day, 100 mgs for ten days, then 50 mgs for ten days.. any suggestions? Is my PCT/Clomid cycle correct? And is it safe to run a short cycle while I wait for the PCT to get here or find another way to get it? If not, then just wait it out until I get my PCT? Jumped on the juice before I had everything necessary, bad idea, but it's already done
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yatesolympia
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Most people will disagree with me but for a period of about 5 years i would do 16 weeks on and 4 off. The last week of my cycle i would begin taking Hcg, Clomid, Tribestan, and Zma as well as continuing with milk thistle. After i took that for the 4weeks i would continue to frontload the clomid first week of the next cycle then start back on d-bol usually 30-40mg for 6 weeks and super test 600, and maybe equipoise for 16 weeks, rinse and repeat.
jcb_phlps
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Holy crap man. 600mgs of clomid is way to much hope that was a typo. Generally like cut throat said at least as long as your cycle was. Try and make it PCT plus length of cycle so your looking at three months or better. And even if your PCT isnt there you still need to take that much time off and some. Your body will eventually come back around. I would highly suggest that you take a good long break and research a little more before your next cycle that PCT is real weak man. You still have alot of reading to do IMO. Once you think you have it down to a science than you come on here and ask the bro's to crituqe it before you run it.
yatesolympia
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Lol no i mean Super test 600, its 600mg of test per ml, and burns like a bitch going in. its like cramming 600mg of test enanthate into a 1 ml shot rather than 3. Your correct the rule of thumb is normally if you were on 8 weeks take 8 weeks off. Then again there are people that run lower dosages and never go off.
jcb_phlps
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If you were to do it like this yates why not just blast and cruise? Why even try to recover with 4 weeks off just cruise with a low test dose and then come back on in about two or three months. Not that it the proper way to do it I'm just saying that if your gonna run it this way I wouldnt attempt to do a 4 week pct/break in between cycles. I'm assuming you were trying to keep your gains this would have done it without jumping around so much.
you said a lot more reading before I get on here for the bro's to critique.. but Yatesolympia says 4 weeks and then another cycle is ok, while others are saying it isn't.. all the old school bodybuilders at my gym says it's fine, just don't run yourself into the gyno mess where you will need surgery, they, like jcb_phlps, tell me my body will eventually come back around... AND that if you do 2 cycles in one year, it's ok if they total about 3 months together, then do the PCT after. Personally I think reading different articles online doesn't even compare to forums where you get facts from other users.
I just got done with the second cycle I have ever done, well 3rd if you count the 4 weeks of M1T when I was 16, at 17 I did an 8 week cycle of sustanon and like 3 weeks of dbol during it.. then I read you should wait until 22.. so I did, then ten week cycle of sust, 4 weeks of anadrol, a little trebulone, and shots of B12 twice a week. I'd say it was a pretty good first cycle in about 5 years. I did it like a pyramid, peaking at 2cc of sust and 50 mg of anadrol in the 5th week, starting and ending with only 1/2 cc of sust, gained 45 lbs, no bullshit, only lost ten in the 4 weeks after.. There is no doubt about it the cycle was a success, I have done my reading, in fact I think my other supplements, DIET AND SLEEP, made a huge difference.
Yatesolympia - you said you would take 4 weeks off for like 5 years, if I am only doing 2 to 3 cycles a year, and trying to do them at the times when I can eat the most and sleep the most, where school and work don't interfere, do you think it's safe to go between these two without a PCT? Was there ever a time you didn't have your PCT? My body didn't take much damage(I don't think) from the cycle, it has been four whole weeks, I am still waking up with hardens and watching porn like usual
Jcb_phpls - was no typo, never in my life used a PCT, this forum won't let me use links yet so, try to piece this together to see where I got that clomid cycle, and if you have a better one, please share, i put 3 spaces after each period articles. muscletalk. co. uk/clomid-hcg. aspx
Yatesolympia - you said you would take 4 weeks off for like 5 years, if I am only doing 2 to 3 cycles a year, and trying to do them at the times when I can eat the most and sleep the most, where school and work don't interfere, do you think it's safe to go between these two without a PCT? Was there ever a time you didn't have your PCT? My body didn't take much damage(I don't think) from the cycle, it has been four whole weeks, I am still waking up with hardens and watching porn like usual
Jcb_phpls - was no typo, never in my life used a PCT, this forum won't let me use links yet so, try to piece this together to see where I got that clomid cycle, and if you have a better one, please share, i put 3 spaces after each period articles. muscletalk. co. uk/clomid-hcg. aspx
that website muscletalk says to jumpstart your pct with 600 mg of clomid the first day, no joke, and I take that back, I did use two weeks of clomid on the last cycle, but only 50 mgs a day. That sounded like a lot to me. And what I am getting from you guys is that maybe, since I have done a lot of reading, it's time to just experiment a little bit? 
I am getting mixed answers here. HOW ABOUT THIS QUESTION, when will I know my natural test is so low, I absolutely need a pct? according to some, my body will eventually jump to normal anyway, and if that's the case, the pct just brings your natural test back faster
I am getting mixed answers here. HOW ABOUT THIS QUESTION, when will I know my natural test is so low, I absolutely need a pct? according to some, my body will eventually jump to normal anyway, and if that's the case, the pct just brings your natural test back fasterSimilar threads
