4 week tren cycle opinions

[stevesmi]

I'm all natty baby!! for now.... . I'm busting my ass right now being natty and i've kept a good 80-85% of my gains and strength off my 3 previous cycles which is fantastic. but I know going natty that figure will slowly dwindle over the next few months which I accept.

anyway this fall/winter I want to dip my syringles into some tren.

I know Nelson advocates these short cycles and I like the idea to preserve the HPTA. plus I don't want to be shutdown for long periods.

has anyone tried this for tren ace? obviously I will run ace with the short esthers and most likely test prop. it would be counterproductive to run a long esther test if I want the gear out of my after 4 weeks.

so my plan is gonna be tren + prop 4 weeks. injections EOD. it will be a lot of injections but I think it will be a nice 4 week cycle, should get some tremendous gains.. and then I should be able to recover much easier then running tren 10 weeks. so basically 2 short tren cycles per year vs. 1 long one that takes an act of god to recover from is my idea here.

thoughts? opinions? experiences?

 

[Deltoid_87]

I'd go atleast 6 - 8 weeks bro. 1 month is just not long enough to make big gains.

 

[babushka]

Hey man
try 6 weeker you won't even need HCG

 

[stevesmi]

Hey man
try 6 weeker you won't even need HCG

you did that? how did u recover?

for me usually around 5 weeks my nuts started atrophying. so i figure if i stick with 4 weeks i will avoid that.

 

[moya]

i kept ALL my strength gains coming off 12 weeks tren, though i did gain 12lbs post cycle (probably half fat)... now with your past experiences with deca recovery you may want to stay on the conservative side, i still think 6 weeks would be a good run... then you could also consider running it along side a long ester test going 8-12 weeks, depending on how confident you feel...
if you havent, check out my log, currently im running test 500wk, tren 350wk and proviron and getting great results...
im not going to say i fully recovered, because i have absolutely no proof, but i didnt have any libido issues or loss of size, strength, motivation etc...
i will also not comment further, but my PCT was very minimal, that which i will not try to get away with again...
imo, 4 weeks good results, 6 weeks you will be VERY pleased...

 

[stevesmi]

thanks moya I will check it out. I am in the very early stages of developing this cycle.. but I want it to be my best one ever.

I'm going natty for almost a year and when I run the tren cycle its gonna be 100% working out. i'm probably even gonna take a full month off from work to focus on training. should be fun.

 

[moya]

excellent idea, if i had extra vacation time right now, that is exactly what i would do as well... my job is pretty intense labor, im sure i could see even better gains if i had some time off...

 

[Therealdeal06555]

4 weeks will just leave you wanting more! 8 weeks Minimum..

 

[C.K.]

I said I'ma never run it again but my summer cycle is 6 weeks prop/mast/tren mix but I'm adding 300 mgs mast pw making it

300 mgs test prop/300 mgs tren ace/ 600 mgs mast prop

also running dost during and post cycle

 

[stevesmi]

I said I'ma never run it again but my summer cycle is 6 weeks prop/mast/tren mix but I'm adding 300 mgs mast pw making it

300 mgs test prop/300 mgs tren ace/ 600 mgs mast prop

also running dost during and post cycle

what happened to you when you ran it? sides too much?

explain

I like the mast idea too, might give that a go also along with a little tren ace