4 days in to first ever aas cycle...a little help please

[Liftstrong12]

Really? I'll say it again....read the thread in my sig. Stay the fuck away from nolvadex. Do you even know what it does? its a breast cancer drug. Even the people that need it feel like shit on it. Its a garbage out dated drug that is only remotely useful if you are getting gyno. Not to mention one of the side effects can be blood clots. Guess what test does? it raises your RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit and usually platelet count. What does that mean? Thicker more viscous blood. Add to that a possible increase in platelets. Sound like a good idea to add nolva to that?
I'm sure you probably wont listen to my advice because I'm loud, outspoken and say fuck a lot when I post. Why is that? Because I have spent 12 years here watching people make the same bullshit mistakes over and over. So I don't give a shit anymore how I come across.
Lets see some blood work from these guys that use clomid and nolvadex after PCT and see where their test levels are. The reason I have the link to my PCT thread is because I have multiple blood works posted in it to prove that a drug free pct is a much better option than a pharmecutical pct. You want definitive info? How about practical application and medical testing to back it up instead of articles or "bro-science".

...I prefer the no bullshit approach. If you read my original post you will see that I am gyno prone, and as you said it may be "remotely useful for gyno" which is really the only reason for having it on hand. Clomid...I have a script and have used it on its own, as prescribed for HRT with little negative sides so I feel it would be a good choice. I've read your thread and thought it was very useful. I'm curious if you would recommend any other brands not made by NTBM? I have nothing against that company btw.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

...I prefer the no bullshit approach. If you read my original post you will see that I am gyno prone, and as you said it may be "remotely useful for gyno" which is really the only reason for having it on hand. Clomid...I have a script and have used it on its own, as prescribed for HRT with little negative sides so I feel it would be a good choice. I've read your thread and thought it was very useful. I'm curious if you would recommend any other brands not made by NTBM? I have nothing against that company btw.

nolvadex would be good to have on hand. but I personally wouldnt use it for pct. thats just me. a small amount of clomid would be fine. with me, its not a sales thing. I used n2bm because back before anyone knew who they were and before they were a sponsor I started using their products. they work with no bullshit gimmicks. it kinda sucks in a way having them as a board sponsor because alot of new guys think the mods and vets are just here to shill supps. I have not tried much else pct wise other than n2bm. some of the stuff like post cycle and unleashed and a few other things are only sold by n2bm not made by. bridge and hcgenerate are actually the only things from them I used iirc. but those imho are the flagship. pct or not everyone needs to try them because they really work. hcgenerate is absolutely a substitute for hcg. theres nothing else out there like it. thats why after being supressed for 13 mos I logged my stuff and got during and after blood work because I knew no one would believe me otherwise.

 

[buddhabuilder]

And limit your research to the forums on this site. That way you know the information your getting was at least reviewed by someone with actual experience on the subject, and it is this type of life knowledge that makes this site essential.

 

[Nelson Montana]

the only thing you need to apologize for not doing any research on what you should be running for post cycle therapy. clomid only? fucking seriously?
you need either hcg or HCgenerate. even that isnt enough. read my sig and learn how to do a real pct with during and after bloodwork to back it up. stay the fuck away from nolvadex unless you are getting gyno.

learn how to do a hcg or hcgenerate blast before pct begins. there are only a few thousand pct threads on here. read the ones from the last month or two. they might not all be the same but you will find the constants that work.

learn why the shit that works actually works. dont just do something because someone says to.

I'm not so sure. There are major conflicts as to what is best, and yes, there is going to be an agenda associated with the use of any product, be it a supplement or a drug. Those who support drugs will say it's tried and true. Those who have bad reaction to the drugs and support supplements will say it's a better, milder way.

I do not recommend natural ingredients because I sell them. I sell them because I recommend them.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I'm not so sure. There are major conflicts as to what is best, and yes, there is going to be an agenda associated with the use of any product, be it a supplement or a drug. Those who support drugs will say it's tried and true. Those who have bad reaction to the drugs and support supplements will say it's a better, milder way.

I do not recommend natural ingredients because I sell them. I sell them because I recommend them.

....and I respected your BB'ing opinion/outlook/knowledge before hand so I took you up on a few recommendations and am glad I did.