3rd Cycle...Dbol & Test....your thoughts.

[alcatraz1662]

Evening gents,

Starting 3rd cycle soon for the winter.....First cycle was Test Prop only, for 8 weeks at 400mg/wk. Second cycle was Test C only at 500 mg/wk for 10 weeks. I saw decent weight gains, and decent strength gains while on both cycles. I'm 6"1, 205 lbs, 12-13% BF, want to get to 225-230lbs. Don't want extreme fat added, but understand a certain amount of water retention is standard. Play college football too...

Weeks/TestE/Dbol

1-----500mg-30mg
2-----500mg-30mg
3-----500mg-40mg
4-----500mg-40mg
5-----500mg
6-----500mg
7-----500mg
8-----500mg
9-----500mg
10----500mg

Weeks/Nolva/Clomid

8-----20mgED-
9-----20mgED-
10----20mgED-
11----20mgED-100mgED
12----20mgED-50mgED
13----20mgED-50mgED

Thinking about Adex or Fem throughout cycle; what would be good doses? Thoughts? Tweaking? All comments welcome, thanks for all the help, fellas.

 

[UFC22]

That seems like a solid cycle, people usually run the Enanthate for 10-12 wks like you are doing. You can just keep it at 30 or 40 mgs of Dbol through-out instead of pyrmaiding it up. As for PCT why dont you just use Nolva it makes no sense you use both. Begin your PCT on week 11 and do 4-5 wks of nolvadex. weeks 1-2 40mgs 3-5 20mgs, and if you were going to use clomid since you thought it helped with "your" PCT considerably do weeks 1-2 100mgs and 3-5 50mgs. For Test E/D-bol i would suggest using Adex at .5mgs ED and run it all the way into the 3rd week of PCT.

 

[olbuddyweiser08]

While doing a cycle with Test E you have to remeber that it is slow acting and stays in your system longer than the faster acting AAS's out there. Therefore you do not want to begin your PCT until about 21 days AFTER your last inject of test. I also agree that you could probably get away with just using Nolvadex in your PCT, and have Adex on hand just incase you notice signs of gyno during your cycle. I'm just finishing up my first cycle, 12 weeks Test E 500mgs and Dbol 30mgs ED for 4 weeks. I will start my PCT of Nolva about 2-2.5 weeks after my last poke next Sunday. Good Luck Bro!

 

[alcatraz1662]

Muchos gracias, hombres; mad reps for all. Yeah, I wanted to step it up a notch from my first 2 cycles so the dbol was a must for me. The A-dex will be used throughout to keep the bloat down. Call me paranoid with the clomid, i might try the PCT without, we'll see when I get there. Also will be using liver protects, milk thistle, and multis throughout. Thanks.

 

[axe3]

alcatraz I have run a fair amt of test @ 500 mg /wk and I personally run a-dex @.5mg eod and stay completely dry. I think .5ed is too much

 

[olbuddyweiser08]

Muchos gracias, hombres; mad reps for all. Yeah, I wanted to step it up a notch from my first 2 cycles so the dbol was a must for me. The A-dex will be used throughout to keep the bloat down. Call me paranoid with the clomid, i might try the PCT without, we'll see when I get there. Also will be using liver protects, milk thistle, and multis throughout. Thanks.

Remember Bro...start the Milk Thistle about a month before you actually start your DBol. It takes about 4 weeks to start protecting the liver so if you start taking it when you start your DBol, by the time it starts working you're already off the D. Just some helpful info...GET BIG!

 

[anthony518]

I like the cycle, but go at least 12 weeks on the enan, and 40mg of the d-bol depending on which ones. I have done white 10mgs and needed 40 a day, but did 5mg pinks and only needed 25mg daily. That looks like my next cycle. Thinking I am going to go that way for winter, lots of weight gain off of that bro, good luck.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Yeah, I've heard of people using anywhere from .5mgEOD to 1mgED with the A-dex. Everyone's body will react differently to different doses. I think I might start off with a happy medium, .5mgED and adjust from there. If I stay fairly dry, I'll crank it down to EOD. A month prior with the milk thistle? I usually start it 2 weeks before my first stick, but no harm in starting it 2 weeks earlier. I'd love to run the Test E for 2 weeks longer, but that would require dipping into another vial. 2 vials runs perfect for 10 weeks at 250mg/ml. Maybe the next cycle, bro. Thanks.

 

[trinidad]

You're basically running another 10 wk cypionate cycle, since they're only different in structure by one atom. You've already ran 2 test only cycles, this one your starting off with dbol, but why not add some deca @ 450 mgs. wks. 1-10?

 

[olbuddyweiser08]

Yeah, I've heard of people using anywhere from .5mgEOD to 1mgED with the A-dex. Everyone's body will react differently to different doses. I think I might start off with a happy medium, .5mgED and adjust from there. If I stay fairly dry, I'll crank it down to EOD. A month prior with the milk thistle? I usually start it 2 weeks before my first stick, but no harm in starting it 2 weeks earlier. I'd love to run the Test E for 2 weeks longer, but that would require dipping into another vial. 2 vials runs perfect for 10 weeks at 250mg/ml. Maybe the next cycle, bro. Thanks.

Two weeks might be enough Bro...it's just that nay people dont realize you have to begin the Milk Thistle BEFORE your Dbol...Hell, I didnt until I did the research! GET BIG!

 

[swolenole]

Two weeks might be enough Bro...it's just that nay people dont realize you have to begin the Milk Thistle BEFORE your Dbol...Hell, I didnt until I did the research! GET BIG!

I never stop..taking milk thistle year round,or flax oil..

 

[olbuddyweiser08]

Even better so long as you can afford it...I know that sh*t can get expensive...but well worth it as far as I'm concerned.