3 weeks too short too start clomid after deca/sust/EQ

[pharmguy]

A probable reason people have so much trouble recovering from deca is they don't know when to start their clomid. This priniciple applies to all AAS but this length of time will apply to EQ as well as SUST. A more likely logical time period to start clomid or nolva is probably 6-8 weeks after your last injection, but you really need to figure out when the half-life build up will be low enough for you to respond to clomid.


Say the drug has a half-life of 12 days and you do 500 mgs every 6 days ( and this is not perfect but a basic idea) and I am not figuring the pre-half life add until after last shot
day amt injected amt in your body
1 500 mgs
6 500 mgs
12 500 mgs + 250 from day 1=750
18 500 +250 from day 6 = 750
24 500 + 375 from day day 12= 875
30 500 +375 from day 12 = 875
36 500 + 438 from day 24=938
42 500 +438 from day 30 =938
48 500 +469 from day 36= 969
54 500 + 469 from day 42 = 969
60 500 + 485 from day 48 = 985
66= combined estimate of 2 week differential= 485 from week 54 + .75 of 985
total 1223 at day 66

day 78 = 600 (for simplicity round down)
day 90= 300
day 102= 150
day 114 = 75
day 126= 35 , low enough to start clomid
over 8 weeks!!!!!!!!!! It would be less for people on sust since the TU is such a low component of sust but EQ and Deca users this is some food for though. And actually I bet when you calculate out enathate and cyp you will find 2 weeks is way too short a time to start clomid/nolva

 

[ripper2]

i don't think you were calculating those number quite right. either that or im just not following properly

 

[canadianhitman]

I don't know about your numbers...but I did my post-cycle clomid 3 weeks after my last shot of test enth and EQ, and it worked great.

 

[pharmguy]

drug half life, unless esters work differently, work like this: half life is 12 days, after 12 days, half the drug is use, the after 12 more days, half of that is used, and so on and so forth.

 

[ripper2]

drug half life, unless esters work differently, work like this: half life is 12 days, after 12 days, half the drug is use, the after 12 more days, half of that is used, and so on and so forth.

right, but i dont' think you calculated the numbers right in your first post.

 

[pharmguy]

ripper2, I don' think so.

Canadianhitman-Clomid must just work with a higher level of androgen present then initially suspected. But I beleive recovery would work better long-term if we waited until androgen levels were decreased.

Deca also shut you down hard probably because progestenergic feedback is also inhibitory to LH/FSH at least as much as as androgenic feedback.