3 weeker with no gains

[BLACKDOOG]

I recently did a 3 week cycle which consisted of Anadrol Propionate Deca and Primobolan. And after the 3 day of beginning my cycle I added in Nolvadex at 20mg AM PM Liquidex 0.05mlx4 daily and Cytadren 250mgX2 2days on 2days off for the 3 weeks and 1 week after my cycle ended. This was suppose to suppress Estrogen and Cortisol build up, but I did not gain a single pound or have and increase in my stregth. Do you think the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex cancelled out my gains. All of my gear was legit. Do you think I should of had used the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex at the end of my cycle instead of during. I read that it is suppose to totally stop estrogen and cortisol build up, but I think the way I used it it killed my gains. Someone please give me some input. I have did plenty of cycles in the past and always have made good gains but recently I plateauted so I figured would try the Androgen saturation 3 weeker which was suppose to yield good keepable gains. This is how it looked


WK 1 Anadrol 50mg 3x daily 300mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily

WK 2 Anadrol 50mg 2x daily 200mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily 50mg Primobolan daily

WK 3 Anadrol 50mg 1x daily 100mg Propionate daily 100mg Primobolan daily

 

[DIVISION]

I figured would try the Androgen saturation 3 weeker which was suppose to yield good keepable gains. This is how it looked


WK 1 Anadrol 50mg 3x daily 300mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily

WK 2 Anadrol 50mg 2x daily 200mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily 50mg Primobolan daily

WK 3 Anadrol 50mg 1x daily 100mg Propionate daily 100mg Primobolan daily

You might have bad AR receptor affinity, and that would mean the Androgen saturation cycle would have to be in much high dosages for it to have an effect, or your diet was shit, or your training was shit...........or the unthinkeable........FAKE GEAR!!!

Come up with an answer, I am very sure it's one of those.






DIV

 

[nipples]

Not been in the game long but fo' show know that your cycle is bunk bro, never heard of three weekers except on m1t and even if you did get any gains, they would probably diminish.

 

[sweed]

only think that u should hav noticed was from the anadrol and some from the prop. this cycle should have been at least 8 weeks. bad planning on your part

 

[a-bomb5083]

I recently did a 3 week cycle which consisted of Anadrol Propionate Deca and Primobolan. And after the 3 day of beginning my cycle I added in Nolvadex at 20mg AM PM Liquidex 0.05mlx4 daily and Cytadren 250mgX2 2days on 2days off for the 3 weeks and 1 week after my cycle ended. This was suppose to suppress Estrogen and Cortisol build up, but I did not gain a single pound or have and increase in my stregth. Do you think the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex cancelled out my gains. All of my gear was legit. Do you think I should of had used the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex at the end of my cycle instead of during. I read that it is suppose to totally stop estrogen and cortisol build up, but I think the way I used it it killed my gains. Someone please give me some input. I have did plenty of cycles in the past and always have made good gains but recently I plateauted so I figured would try the Androgen saturation 3 weeker which was suppose to yield good keepable gains. This is how it looked


WK 1 Anadrol 50mg 3x daily 300mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily

WK 2 Anadrol 50mg 2x daily 200mg Propionate daily 100mg Deca daily 50mg Primobolan daily

WK 3 Anadrol 50mg 1x daily 100mg Propionate daily 100mg Primobolan daily

so let me get this straight. you took for 3 weeks.....

drols- 150mg/day
prop- 2 grams prop/week
deca- 700mg deca/week

and you have noticed zero gains?!!?!? i'm thinking bunk gear. with that high of a dose, you could not train, and not eat and still make some sort of gains. my only conclusion is bunk gear bro. think u got ripped off. what were the brands of each item?

 

[sweed]

holy shit i didn't notice those amouts were ed... shiiit man... wtf were u thinking? this has to be a newby first cycle

 

[nipples]

At least some water weight if not fake ass gear bro.

 

[Tweakle]

you should have put on like 25lbs of water just sitting on the couch watching TV. You need some estro to gain imo, I dropped my ldex and novla to e3d

 

[krishna]

He says he's done previous cycles. Those are high doses unless you pretty experienced. And if you are experienced, why only a 3 week cycle? None of this adds up. The only thing I can think of is bunk gear.

 

[chefbone]

That much gear could make Webster benc 300+. 3 weeker, please homeboy, plan better next time. Check your source!!

 

[DIVISION]

holy shit i didn't notice those amouts were ed... shiiit man... wtf were u thinking? this has to be a newby first cycle

He said it was an "Androgen saturation 3 weeker"......which is not something a newbie should be doing anyway.

The Deca being in there doesn't make sense.......for a 3 week cycle.





DIV

 

[a-bomb5083]

sure doesn't DIV, what the hell was he thinking. not to flame,ok, well, to flame, bro this was not a good idea by any means. are your eyes and skin turning yellow yet? and theres no way that with those doses that any amount of anti-e's would inhibit any gains at all. final conclusion, YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF, I SUGGEST YOU FIND A NEW SOURCE. thats all carry on.

 

[toxicsambo]

He says he's done previous cycles. Those are high doses unless you pretty experienced. And if you are experienced, why only a 3 week cycle? None of this adds up. The only thing I can think of is bunk gear.

I think this dude is either full of shit, or running on 2 brain cells. There's no way he's experienced, and there's no way he knows anything about gear.

 

[DIVISION]

I think this dude is either full of shit, or running on 2 brain cells. There's no way he's experienced, and there's no way he knows anything about gear.

Yes, but if he's full of shit why go through the trouble of posting it here? For what purpose?

I have a feeling his gear was fake.......just wish he's reveal what brand it was.




DIV

 

[toxicsambo]

Yes, but if he's full of shit why go through the trouble of posting it here? For what purpose?

I have a feeling his gear was fake.......just wish he's reveal what brand it was.




DIV

Hey man, some ppl just do wierd shit. Anyway, if he had any experience, how the hell can you buy that much gear and end up with all fakes?

 

[DIVISION]

Hey man, some ppl just do wierd shit. Anyway, if he had any experience, how the hell can you buy that much gear and end up with all fakes?

Maybe he has experience buying fake shit?

People do alot of weird shit....you got that right.



DIV

 

[230lbs]

Maybe he has experience buying fake shit?

People do alot of weird shit....you got that right.



Talk 'bout wierd shit...I have good friend who does...get this....

1.0cc stan qv 50 injested EVERYDAY!!!
20ml winstral oral. 3-5 tabs a day. some days more....has no structure.
1.5 cc deca once a week.
and then some other type of winny injectable that he shoots 20 minutes before training.....trains 4 days a week...same 6 exercises everytime he trains. then does abs for 12 minutes and still has ONE noticable ab.

Eats shit
takes no vitamins
takes nothing for preventitive maintnance for that matter
Weighs 175 lbs from 190.
And refuses advice from anyone......He can't even tell me what a "normal" blood pressure reading is.
Some people just don't have a clue.

 

[[email protected]]

Seems like bunk gear. But even if it wasn't there are a few things to consider. For someone who is not a top national competitior, the dosages were to high. If you do use A-drol. You should use it 5 - 6 weeks and use test, deca or eq to keep some of the mass you gained. Most of it will be water anyway. Deca needs to be taken at least 12 weeks unless it's NPP. If you are set on doing very short cycles, use only fast acting compounds. IE: Test Suspension, Test Prop, A-drol Dbol, winstrol, etc.

 

[krishna]

He said it was an "Androgen saturation 3 weeker"......which is not something a newbie should be doing anyway.

The Deca being in there doesn't make sense.......for a 3 week cycle.





DIV

Ok an androgen saturation 3 weeker (which I admit I've never heard of), but you're right, the deca doesn't make sense. Oh, and thanks for the bomb DIV!

 

[karachi183]

With all that aas u should have been a walking balding zit. Had to be fake, or at least give it another week or so and see what happens good or bad. Very high doses as for the deca even for guys i know that are around 200/220 and change but as for the anadrol and prop that's not un heard of. Some ppl use it like that for a kick start when cutting up. More info please like:
any change in body comp
any sexual disfunctions or enhancements
any oily skin
more sweat at night when sleeping
change in appetite
if no to all of these then it's gotta be bunk!

 

[BLACKDOOG]

Thanks DIV. Diet was right on 5000 cals a day 400gms protein 600carbs 150gms fat. And gear definitely is real.

You might have bad AR receptor affinity, and that would mean the Androgen saturation cycle would have to be in much high dosages for it to have an effect, or your diet was shit, or your training was shit...........or the unthinkeable........FAKE GEAR!!!

Come up with an answer, I am very sure it's one of those.






DIV

 

[BLACKDOOG]

No buddy I definitely am not a newby. If you read all the info with that cycle I had used Cytadren Nolvadex and Liquidex at high doses to suppress estrogen and cortisol build up. i was just wondering did tht cancel out my gins. I have used anadrol many of times and gaind up o 30 pounds on a cycle. And my gear is not fake. I think I may have used the Estrogen cortisol suppression cytadren Nolvadex and liquidex at the wrong part of the cycle instead of during I think I should of had used it at the end of the cycle when estrogen and cortisol start to build up ubtil your natural test production kicks back in.

holy shit i didn't notice those amouts were ed... shiiit man... wtf were u thinking? this has to be a newby first cycle

 

[BLACKDOOG]

This cycle is an Androgen saturation cycle which is supose to be 3 weeks. It was one that i had read about. I figured I would try it out since had plateaued ad had a hard time making additionl gains on my previous cycles. I think the cytadren nolvadex and liquidex at high dosages cancelled out my gains. I have plenty of 8 week cycles under my belt and i usually make my best gains the first 3 weks then it just levels out.

only think that u should hav noticed was from the anadrol and some from the prop. this cycle should have been at least 8 weeks. bad planning on your part

 

[BLACKDOOG]

I did notice that I became very vascular and looked very lean

With all that aas u should have been a walking balding zit. Had to be fake, or at least give it another week or so and see what happens good or bad. Very high doses as for the deca even for guys i know that are around 200/220 and change but as for the anadrol and prop that's not un heard of. Some ppl use it like that for a kick start when cutting up. More info please like:
any change in body comp
any sexual disfunctions or enhancements
any oily skin
more sweat at night when sleeping
change in appetite
if no to all of these then it's gotta be bunk!

 

[tommy39]

Maybe he has experience buying fake shit?

People do alot of weird shit....you got that right.



DIV

Experience buying fake gear! HA HA HA I love it!

 

[BLACKDOOG]

No buddy my gear is definitely not fake. It comes from a popular source who I have been dealing with for a while now. And the cycle went like this:

WK 1 Anadrol 3 tabs a day Propionate 300mg a day Deca 100mg a day

WK 2 Anadrol 2 tabs a day Propionate 200 mg a day Deca 100mg a day Primobolan 50mg a day

WK 3 Anadrol 1 tab a day Propionate100mg a day Primobolan 100mg a day

I also used cytadren Liquidex and Nolvadex with it at high dosages and if you read up on cytadren if you use enough it can totally suppress Estrogen and cortisol build up and I think this is what killed my gains. I have did plenty of cycles in the past and gaines up to 30 pounds using Anadrol. I read about this 3 weeker and decided to try it out with the Estrogen and Cortisol suppression. I am not a newbie at this. If it did not work it did not work. It is not like I am a dumb ass or anything.

so let me get this straight. you took for 3 weeks.....

drols- 150mg/day
prop- 2 grams prop/week
deca- 700mg deca/week

and you have noticed zero gains?!!?!? i'm thinking bunk gear. with that high of a dose, you could not train, and not eat and still make some sort of gains. my only conclusion is bunk gear bro. think u got ripped off. what were the brands of each item?

 

[fonixer]

mmmmmmmmm
And bush Is a good president !

 

[BLACKDOOG]

No buddy again I am not a newby. This cycle is an Androgen saturation cycle. That is why you take the high dosages and taper them down. read about this cycle and decided to try it and you seem to be missing ther part about me using the Nolvadex at 40mg a day liquidex at 2ml a day and cytadren at 500mg a day 2 days on 2 days off during the whole cycle and a week after it ended. I think i read it wrong and should off used the nolva adex and cytadren at the end of the cycle to suppress any estrogen and cortisol build during my PCT until my natural testosterone production kicked in. And again my gear was not fake. If you read up on cytadren you will see that at a high enough does it will totally stop estrogen production the the thing responsible for you water weigh gain when on anadrol and other gear.

holy shit i didn't notice those amouts were ed... shiiit man... wtf were u thinking? this has to be a newby first cycle

 

[BLACKDOOG]

No water weigh gain at all. I think I did not gain any water weight because cytadren used at high enough of a dose will to suppress estrogen production which results in water weight gain and also the 2ml a day of liquidex that I used keeps water out of you also. I think that I used the cytadren and liquidex during the wrong part of my cycle instead of during I should of used it afterwards. No one seems to be able to answer why except DIV. The only responses that I am getting are you are rookie or you have fake shit. People posting are not reading the thread all the way through and understanding it.

At least some water weight if not fake ass gear bro.

 

[BLACKDOOG]

You are totally right about that Buddy. You do need some estrogen for Testosterone production in order to grow and I think that is where fucked up at with using the cytadren liquidex and nolvadex together at high dosages during my cycle. Cytadren at high enough of a dose will stop estrogen production and I was thinking I would have leaner gains when in actuality i cancelled out my gains. You and DIV are thre only one who seen to understand this so far. I am not a rookie like everyone thinks and my gear was not fake. The Estrogen Cortisol suppressor was suppose to be used at the end of my cycle to stop estrogen and cortisol build the shit responsible for most of your muscle lost t the end of your cycle.

you should have put on like 25lbs of water just sitting on the couch watching TV. You need some estro to gain imo, I dropped my ldex and novla to e3d

 

[courtneybcca]

isn't 3 weeks way to short? I didn't see any gains until like 4 weeks in....

 

[BLACKDOOG]

I am experienced with gear use. This cycle was one that I had read about and decided I would try . It is no big deal. It just did not work out right because I had used the Cytadren and liquidex at a high dose at the wrong time which was during my cycle when I should of had used it at the end. I am not a dumb ass and my shit was not fake. This was something that I tried. It is not like I lost my life savings or something. There will be time for me to do other cycles.

He says he's done previous cycles. Those are high doses unless you pretty experienced. And if you are experienced, why only a 3 week cycle? None of this adds up. The only thing I can think of is bunk gear.

 

[BLACKDOOG]

Hommie this cycle was one that I read about. Believe me I know how to put on some weight and get strong. I just decided to try this cycle and see how it would be. The mistake I think I made was using thre Cytadren at a high dose during my cycle because it totally suppreses estrogen production which is neccesary to make some gains and also the the liquidex at 2ml daily. It is not a big deal. And my gear is not fake by a long shot. I deal with one of the best sources around who is known.

That much gear could make Webster benc 300+. 3 weeker, please homeboy, plan better next time. Check your source!!

 

[BLACKDOOG]

For you information if you know what you are talking which you do not, Cytadren used at a high enough does totaly suppresses Estrogen production which is needed for some growth. And Liquidex at 2ml a day will stop a lot of water weight gain whic Anadrol mainly causes. hat is the mistake that I had made using the estrogen and cortisol suppression during the cycle when i should of used it after my cycle. And believe me buddy I deal with one ote best sources around. I do not get fake shit. the cytadren and liquidex at the high dosages cancelled out my gains.

sure doesn't DIV, what the hell was he thinking. not to flame,ok, well, to flame, bro this was not a good idea by any means. are your eyes and skin turning yellow yet? and theres no way that with those doses that any amount of anti-e's would inhibit any gains at all. final conclusion, YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF, I SUGGEST YOU FIND A NEW SOURCE. thats all carry on.

 

[lefler]

once i drank 20 beers, droped 5 hits of acid, smoked a pound of weed, and finished off an 8 ball and didnt even feel a thing

bro, a fucking 7 ton elephant would have noticed some weight gain with those doses.

not to flame but i dont buy it at all. if you took all that and didnt notice anything it was bunk end of story

 

[lefler]

and i dont care if you took Cytadren, and Liquidex or not. you took drols- 150mg/day
prop- 2 grams prop/week
deca- 700mg deca/week

nuff said

 

[BLACKDOOG]

Mother fucker. I have done lots of cycles and made good gains on all of them. Don't sit there and say I have 2 brain cells. This cycle was one that I read about and decided to try. It is not the end of the fucking world because I did not make any gains. My gains were cancelled out by the cytadren and high liquidex that I used during my cycle. You act like you are some kind of Phd or something. I just reversed the estrogen cortisol suppression part of the cycle which cancelled out my gains. I should have done the estrogen cortisol suppression at the end of my cycle instead of during. Can you comprehend that.

I think this dude is either full of shit, or running on 2 brain cells. There's no way he's experienced, and there's no way he knows anything about gear.

 

[Tweakle]

mmmm.. see I found that even on big cycles of fast acting juice I dont gain shit until the 5th week or later... maybe you respond the same? i could do a couple grams tren a week for a month and not get much out of it.. but 1/4 that for 8 weeks and BOOM.

 

[sprinter86]

No gains = ripped off, fake gear ...my ex-legit source didnt even know it wasnt the real deal

 

[BLACKDOOG]

Hey DIV Brother. You and about 2 other people who had posted seem to know what you are talking about. All the other dumb fucks are talking about fake gear I am getting, I need to check my source and that I am a rookie. First of all I did my first cycle first cycle in 1989 which was from a so called weigh gain Dr. when you could get gear from a Dr. legally which consisted of Anadrol and Test Cypionate for 8 weeks on which I gained 25 pounds. I have been doing cycles on and off since then and have always made good gains. I weighed 165 in 1989 and now I am at 245 and 12% body fat right now. The other thing is I have a good source who I get my gear from who I am pretty sure you know of so my gear is not fake and I have 2 other European sources who I have been getting gear from for some years now. I got some fake yellow top decas one time but they were replaced with Normas so I do not have a problen getting real gear. The 3 week cycle that I did was one that I read about in Chemical Muscle Enhancement. The reason why I think I did not make much gains in size in strength is because of the Estrogen Cortisol suppression that I did during my cycle instead of doing it after my cycle. I read that when you use Cytadren Liquidex and Nolvadex it will totally stop Estrogen and Cortisol production which is responsible for muscle lost at the end of your cycle. So I think by me using it during my cycle it could of cancelled out my gains. That is all that I am trying to find out. I know how to cycle and make gains. I just wanted to try this 3 weeker and see how it worked out. I think it would of had made very good gains if i would of not had used the cytadren liquidex and nolvadex the way I did.

Yes, but if he's full of shit why go through the trouble of posting it here? For what purpose?

I have a feeling his gear was fake.......just wish he's reveal what brand it was.




DIV

 

[BLACKDOOG]

You did not read the cycle right. It tapers down. Learn how to read..

and i dont care if you took Cytadren, and Liquidex or not. you took drols- 150mg/day
prop- 2 grams prop/week
deca- 700mg deca/week

nuff said

 

[BLACKDOOG]

The first thing I have to say is your mother fucking ass cant read. The cycle tapers down.It is not 2g's of Propionate a week and 700g's of deca a week all the way through it tapers down.. And you obviously do not know shit about Cytadren or Liquidex. Cytadren used at a high enough dose will stop estrogen production in your body and it is needed to make gains and hold water for strength. Combine that with Liquidex at a high enough doses you can cancel out your gains which I did not know at the time. I used it at the wrong time during my cycle when I should of had used at the end of my cycle Mr. Proffesor.







it is not

and i dont care if you took Cytadren, and Liquidex or not. you took drols- 150mg/day
prop- 2 grams prop/week
deca- 700mg deca/week

nuff said

 

[DIVISION]

I got some fake yellow top decas one time but they were replaced with Normas so I do not have a problen getting real gear.

My first Deca cycle was with Normal Hellas.....shit was unreal......loved it.

I have CME and yes I saw the Max Androgen Saturation cycles.....they are experimental though, no real validity showing they have any benefit......it would be an awful lot of gear to waste.




DIV

 

[lefler]

The first thing I have to say is your mother fucking ass cant read. The cycle tapers down.It is not 2g's of Propionate a week and 700g's of deca a week all the way through it tapers down.. And you obviously do not know shit about Cytadren or Liquidex. Cytadren used at a high enough dose will stop estrogen production in your body and it is needed to make gains and hold water for strength. Combine that with Liquidex at a high enough doses you can cancel out your gains which I did not know at the time. I used it at the wrong time during my cycle when I should of had used at the end of my cycle Mr. Proffesor. it is not

LMAO!! Obviously, you're no genius if you just went and fucked your whole cycle up lol

And what I dont get is this: and I quote... "Do you think the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex cancelled out my gains. All of my gear was legit. Do you think I should of had used the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex at the end of my cycle instead of during. I read that it is suppose to totally stop estrogen and cortisol build up, but I think the way I used it it killed my gains. Someone please give me some input"

But magically you're an expert on the situation 7 hours later. Tell me something jackass, why come on here asking a question if you already know the fucking answer???

I mean here you are calling me a motherfucker when your dumb ass just did a fuckload of gear for absolutely nothing. Is this how you treat your body all the time? Talk all the shit you want Dr. Dumbfuck. But if this is the kind of shit, you pull all the time then good luck with your health

 

[lefler]

You did not read the cycle right. It tapers down. Learn how to resad.

learn how to what?? lol

 

[BLACKDOOG]

Yes DIV Brother that is what I was doing Experimenting. I did notice that I appeared to be more lean and more vascular in my Quads and Arms, but that is all that was an experiment. All those fools were calling me a rookie and saying I need to check my source and that I had fake gear oh well they do not know what the hell they are talking about. I now know what the cycle will do and in about a month I will get back on my regular cycle.

My first Deca cycle was with Normal Hellas.....shit was unreal......loved it.

I have CME and yes I saw the Max Androgen Saturation cycles.....they are experimental though, no real validity showing they have any benefit......it would be an awful lot of gear to waste.




DIV

 

[blut wump]

Short-ester three and four weekers are not so uncommon in Europe and the fragmented, erstwhile Soviet Union. Kind of 'get in, make some small gains and get out again'. One, supposedly, can run them fairly frequently and the theory is that over the course of a year you can make pretty much the same gains as someone who puts in a couple or three 'normal' cycles. The body gets less overall stress with a series of small gains as against some massive 30lbs in a couple of months surge. That's the theory, anyway.

I'm curious as to why the deca is there.

 

[a-bomb5083]

learn how to what?? lol

DIDUNT YOO REED WUT HE ROTE? HE SED TO LERN HOW TO RESAD!!!!

 

[DIVISION]

Short-ester three and four weekers are not so uncommon in Europe and the fragmented, erstwhile Soviet Union. Kind of 'get in, make some small gains and get out again'. One, supposedly, can run them fairly frequently and the theory is that over the course of a year you can make pretty much the same gains as someone who puts in a couple or three 'normal' cycles. The body gets less overall stress with a series of small gains as against some massive 30lbs in a couple of months surge. That's the theory, anyway.

I'm curious as to why the deca is there.

Yup, that's the theory, Wumpscut.....

Somehow I doubt that it works quite as cleanly as it's theorized....

I would tend to think that a few long extended cycles followed by time on = time off would reap more gains in the long run.




DIV

 

[toxicsambo]

The best thing is, if he would've actually taken this over 8 weeks. He may have actually seen results. Or he has the WORST genetics in the history of mankind... Or it's fake gear....Or he never did this cycle...Or he just a confused kid.

3.85 grams of gear in a week equals a hospital visit. I think that's what killed Andreas Munzer. Oh yeah, plus the l-dex and other shit.

 

[DIVISION]

3.85 grams of gear in a week equals a hospital visit. I think that's what killed Andreas Munzer. Oh yeah, plus the l-dex and other shit.

Nah, SamboPet.....

I've read up extensively on Munzer's death.....

Basically the cause of death was due to diuretics.....his blood coagulated in his body (turned to jello).

I'm suprised though that his liver could have survived the massive amounts of 17AA he was using.......we're talking megadoses of Halo for extended periods of time. He was living life on the edge, when you do that, all it takes is one mistake or lapse in thought and you could fall.








DIV

 

[toxicsambo]

Nah, SamboPet.....

I've read up extensively on Munzer's death.....

Basically the cause of death was due to diuretics.....his blood coagulated in his body (turned to jello).

I'm suprised though that his liver could have survived the massive amounts of 17AA he was using.......we're talking megadoses of Halo for extended periods of time. He was living life on the edge, when you do that, all it takes is one mistake or lapse in thought and you could fall.


DIV

Oh yeah, Munzer had like a shit load of Lasix in his system along with all the gear. 3.85 grams of gear is fkn stupidity. Something had to give.

 

[BLACKDOOG]

OK I did fuck up on the experimental 3 week cycle that I had read about in Chemical Muscle enhancement. It was a cycle that I read about a year ago and just recently decided that I would try. I made some gains but not as many as I expected. That is why I posted the thread about it. The only person who was able to give some reasonable responses was DIV. I am not an expert that is why I posted the thread. I have did plenty of cycle in the past and have made tremendous gains so I am not dumb by a long shot with how to use AAS to gain size and strength. It is no big deal about the gear that I used on the 3 weeker. It is not a waste. I have gear at my disposal and when that is gone i can get some more. I came at you the way I did because instead of you posting a reasonable answer to my thread you try to make it seem like I am an idiot. This board is for posting thread and answering them not telling people how stupid they are.

LMAO!! Obviously, you're no genius if you just went and fucked your whole cycle up lol

And what I dont get is this: and I quote... "Do you think the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex cancelled out my gains. All of my gear was legit. Do you think I should of had used the nolvadex cytadren and liquidex at the end of my cycle instead of during. I read that it is suppose to totally stop estrogen and cortisol build up, but I think the way I used it it killed my gains. Someone please give me some input"

But magically you're an expert on the situation 7 hours later. Tell me something jackass, why come on here asking a question if you already know the fucking answer???

I mean here you are calling me a motherfucker when your dumb ass just did a fuckload of gear for absolutely nothing. Is this how you treat your body all the time? Talk all the shit you want Dr. Dumbfuck. But if this is the kind of shit, you pull all the time then good luck with your health

 

[gymratforlife]

OK I did fuck up on the experimental 3 week cycle that I had read about in Chemical Muscle enhancement. It was a cycle that I read about a year ago and just recently decided that I would try. I made some gains but not as many as I expected. That is why I posted the thread about it. The only person who was able to give some reasonable responses was DIV. I am not an expert that is why I posted the thread. I have did plenty of cycle in the past and have made tremendous gains so I am not dumb by a long shot with how to use AAS to gain size and strength. It is no big deal about the gear that I used on the 3 weeker. It is not a waste. I have gear at my disposal and when that is gone i can get some more. I came at you the way I did because instead of you posting a reasonable answer to my thread you try to make it seem like I am an idiot. This board is for posting thread and answering them not telling people how stupid they are.

Damn lol how is your Karmic power the same as mine with only like 57 karma hits and a few posts?

 

[DIVISION]

Damn lol how is your Karmic power the same as mine with only like 57 karma hits and a few posts?

He bought Fresh Karma from the Karma store........

I have no idea why.....






DIV

 

[gymratforlife]

He bought Fresh Karma from the Karma store........

I have no idea why.....






DIV

 

[lefler]

OK I did fuck up on the experimental 3 week cycle that I had read about in Chemical Muscle enhancement. It was a cycle that I read about a year ago and just recently decided that I would try. I made some gains but not as many as I expected. That is why I posted the thread about it. The only person who was able to give some reasonable responses was DIV. I am not an expert that is why I posted the thread. I have did plenty of cycle in the past and have made tremendous gains so I am not dumb by a long shot with how to use AAS to gain size and strength. It is no big deal about the gear that I used on the 3 weeker. It is not a waste. I have gear at my disposal and when that is gone i can get some more. I came at you the way I did because instead of you posting a reasonable answer to my thread you try to make it seem like I am an idiot. This board is for posting thread and answering them not telling people how stupid they are.

ok, well i apologize... sorry bro

 

[wayneboard1]

learn how to what?? lol

LMAO

 

[gymratforlife]

LMAO

 

[DIVISION]

DIV

 

[blut wump]

Damn lol how is your Karmic power the same as mine with only like 57 karma hits and a few posts?

He's been here longer.
Each 2 months
Each 1000 posts
Each 2000 Karma hits

All worth one point of Karmic Power but I think you need to have at least 50 posts before you get any power.

 

[DIVISION]

He's been here longer.
Each 2 months
Each 1000 posts
Each 2000 Karma hits

All worth one point of Karmic Power but I think you need to have at least 50 posts before you get any power.

Wumpscut......your dog looks rather timid...

What's his deal?



DIV

 

[BLACKDOOG]

I apologize also it's all good.

ok, well i apologize... sorry bro

 

[gymratforlife]

I apologize also it's all good.

 

[craigsuperbig]

you dont mention how many time you were off-cycle from the previous cycle, it should be some 6 weeks at least