2nd week on the goodies, looking for info to my situation

[Nelson Montana]

That's quite a safe, mild cycle you're on, most of the gains will be from nandrolone, which are retained well if your PCT is good. The testosterone is just a maintainance TRT dose, you are unlikely to get many sides from the combo, but should make good gains. You will be shut down though, and require PCT.

Yeah, I read that sticky. It pushes a couple of products rather heavily, without saying what's in them. It is a long way from the concensus on PCT, so it must present new evidence. It seems more advert than research paper, the font size is all over the place and it has the word "Bullsit!!!" in the title. It doesn't feel quite right to me, as a scientist (I'm a chemist).

10 weeks is quite a long time for your balls to be asleep, I recommend taking a maintainance dose of hcg (250iu) every 4 days all the way through, starting two weeks after your first shot. This will keep your balls awake and making a bit of extra testosterone. Otherwise your leydig cells will shrivel to amost nothing by the time your start your PCT.

A single 5000iu dose can be dissolved in 5ml of sterile water in a vial, then you just grab a flap of skin on your belly, pop a needle through the skin, and inject 0.25ml. I don't even count them as injections, no pain at all, they are tiny and virtually just water. 5000iu makes 20 of these injections, equating to 80 days of testicular "wakey wakey". I'm using it, and my old boys are as plump as a christmas goose.

your gains will be from the deca, and because you will be motivated to train for 12 or 13 weeks solid (because you are "on" something, and you don't want to waste it). The test dose is mearly a PCT maintainance dose, but should help. If you get "deca dick" halfway through your cycle, definitely bump up the test dose, as others have recommended. Testosterone is natural to the body, and has lots of health benefits for older bodybuilders like me (I'm 43). I've been taking 500mg of test E a week for 6 weeks, and I'm not really experiencing any water bloat (I am also taking low-dose hcg and proviron)

You have a couple of months to get your PCT stuff. Get whatever you choose ordered straight away from the same site (to be certain they are legit), order more than you need so you have some on hand at the start of your next cycle.And consider another 10ml vial of test or some hcg, as you're already paying for the postage. A 10ml vial of test E or C is the tin of baked beans of most steroid websites, you can get them dirt cheap.

Fist off, welcome to the board! Always glad to have someone with scientific knowledge to add to the conversation. However, you had some concerns abot the PCt so I'd like to address them.

First off, the casual manner in which it's presented is simple that -- it's like talking to friends. Anyone who knows me knows that's always been my style to be direct, simple and clear. There's been a trend in the bodybuilding in the last decade or so to impose more scientific information but in many ways people use that more to conflate and distort than to clarify. I'm a no-bullshit guy. (Brooklyn New York, U.S.A.) I have no need for pretense.

As for the ingredients in the products mentioned, they can easily be found. To bring that up as a sourse of suspecian is a little unfair. It's also been explained how they work but i felt in that particular post I didn;t want to repeat myself, instead, I was outlining a basic plan of usage.

I understand you have your theory about HCG and I won;t say you're wrong. I simply disagree. You'll have to admit, the thinking is either one way or the other
-- either use it whileon, or just afterward. One point I will contest is that HCG keeps the ledig cells "awake". In fact, it desensitizes them. Also, 5000i.u's is the dosage to impart fertility in women. It is conplete overkill for out purposes.

Lastly, I'm not a fan of increasing the dose of one drug to counter the effects of another. Deca brings on more trouble than it's worth IMO, but of course that too is a personal thing.

At any rate, opinions are always welcome. The more intelligent conversation we have on the board, the better.

 

[eyekanseayoo]

I would say step the test up to at least 400mg a week.. running a low dose is barely beneficial and you are putting your poor testicles on the back burner for hardly anything. BUMP it UP!