2nd week after cycle,gains fading fast HELP!!

[jokerswild]

Cycle was

25mg ED dbol 1-3
500 sust 1-9
50mg ED winny 9-13

PCT
1000 iu hcg 3x week, two weeks
20 mg nolva daily 28 days

Popped my last winny about 12 days ago, PCT sucks bad so far Went from 168lbs to 186lbs by week 8, dropped some water after the sust and at week 12 I was 182lbs and hard, now I am 177 flat, sore as hell after workouts and tired. I'm a hardgainer as it is so I'm goint to start back on creatine and try to force myself to eat like mad, someone help me out here, I don't want to lose everything...

 

[uglyass]

Eat plenty, sleep plenty and keep training hard but make sure you rest properly after workouts. That will help.

UglyASS

 

[silverbackn]

Taper your training back, your body can't handle the same amount of volume that it could when had a few extra hormones floating around.

 

[string_bean00]

Nolva PCT is 40mg for 14 days, and 20mg for another 14 days.

 

[swordfish151]

yeah you have to cut down the volume of your lifts...your not going to be able to handle what you did while on...this can mess with your mind...also i would start the creatine..might help a little

 

[zach01]

Must be water because your test level should be the same for 2 weeks after last shot from the sust. start pct clomid 3 weeks after sust shot. From my blood work there is no drop in my test levels if I wait every two weeks for sus or EQ. when taking very week they just go higher and higher.

Cycle was

25mg ED dbol 1-3
500 sust 1-9
50mg ED winny 9-13

PCT
1000 iu hcg 3x week, two weeks
20 mg nolva daily 28 days

Popped my last winny about 12 days ago, PCT sucks bad so far Went from 168lbs to 186lbs by week 8, dropped some water after the sust and at week 12 I was 182lbs and hard, now I am 177 flat, sore as hell after workouts and tired. I'm a hardgainer as it is so I'm goint to start back on creatine and try to force myself to eat like mad, someone help me out here, I don't want to lose everything...

 

[krishna]

When did you start the PCT? Sure you've dropped some weight, but I bet your bf%/muscle ratio have changed some too. Don't stress bro....stress causes cortisol levels to rise and makes you catabolic.

 

[silverbackn]

When did you start the PCT? Sure you've dropped some weight, but I bet your bf%/muscle ratio have changed some too. Don't stress bro....stress causes cortisol levels to rise and makes you catabolic.

This is true! The worst thing you can do is freak out about losing some water and some strength.

 

[jokerswild]

Must be water because your test level should be the same for 2 weeks after last shot from the sust. start pct clomid 3 weeks after sust shot. From my blood work there is no drop in my test levels if I wait every two weeks for sus or EQ. when taking very week they just go higher and higher.

Read my post again, I haven't had a shot of test in almost 6 weeks, it has almost been two weeks since I had any winny. Krishna, i started PCT the day after my last winny tab....

 

[krishna]

Read my post again, I haven't had a shot of test in almost 6 weeks, it has almost been two weeks since I had any winny. Krishna, i started PCT the day after my last winny tab....

You could still be dropping water from the sust, even after 6 weeks. What's your diet like?

 

[jokerswild]

You could still be dropping water from the sust, even after 6 weeks. What's your diet like?

Getting about 3500-4000 cals a day (although not as clean as it has been in the past) Protein intake is about 300g per day, not sure if I'm crashing because I am just as horny as ever, the acne and weight lose are driving me nuts.....

 

[Bruce]

yeah i got stronger for 2 weeks after my 12 weeker with deca. i started losing weight after 5 weeks. i guess we are all different. tone down your workouts, i never thought of that and that might be why i lost weight

 

[jokerswild]

yeah i got stronger for 2 weeks after my 12 weeker with deca. i started losing weight after 5 weeks. i guess we are all different. tone down your workouts, i never thought of that and that might be why i lost weight

I'm going to start lifting heavy, like 5 sets of 3 instead of my usual 4 sets of 8....