2nd cycle

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

OK this is my planned 2nd cycle your oppinions please:
1st cycle was the same apart from i only did 250mg/w sus250 the dbol was tappered and i didn't use the winny.
From the first cycle i gainned 20lb and some body fat

Goals are another 15-20lb and no extra bodyfat

week-------dbol--------sus250----------deca----------winny
1----------30mg/d------750mg/w-------400mg/w------------
2----------30mg/d------750mg/w-------400mg/w------------
3----------30mg/w------500mg/w-------400mg/w------------
4----------30mg/w------500mg/w-------400mg/w------------
5--------------------------500mg/w--------400mg/w------------
6--------------------------500mg/w--------400mg/w------------
7--------------------------500mg/w--------400mg/w-----------
8--------------------------500mg/w--------400mg/w------50mg/d
9--------------------------500mg/w--------------------------50mg/d
10------------------------500mg/w--------------------------50mg/d
11--------------------------------------------------------------50mg/d
12--------------------------------------------------------------50mg/d
13--------------------------------------------------------------50mg/d
14 Clomid

I will also be using proviron through out and hgc weeks 11,12,13
i know there will be questions regarding the winny but i am useing it because last cycle i lost a lot of weight between my last test shot and starting clomid.

Your advise is much appreciated also has anyone done a similar cycle ?


M.A.S.S

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

Bump any one have a oppinion?

 

[Mike P.T.]

this cycle looks pretty good to me bro. make sure training, diet and rest are optimal as well. as for the proviron, are u taking it for its anti-estrogenic or becuase since its an androgen that doesnt aromatize for its increased hardening effect? either way i say u should take arimidex as an anti-estrogen for this cycle as its alot more efffective and no need for the extra androgen although u could keep it in the stack. good luck bro.

 

[jc21]

what are your stats, i like to know the size of the guy before i say anything, and age, and years of training.

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

OK stats are 6ft 198lb 7 years training last cycle was in sep/oct will be doing this cycle feb/march.

Diet will be in check let it go a bit last time and was not happy!

Mike P T Yes i was using the proviron for anti e can't get arimidex so its proviron or novaldex ?


Thanks for your input Bro's


M.A.S.S

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

Can i bump this one back up. Iwill be starting this next saturday and i still have a question about the anti-e i can only get proviron or novaldex which do you think would be the better chocie.


M.A.S.S

 

[brainiac]

That looks like enough gear for three of my cycles. Your 2nd cycle? And in less than 3 mos? How do you know your body already requires this much stuff for gains? Your size and my reading between the lines makes me think you are dissatisfied with your results from the first go round...which should almost always your best, most solid. Your BF went up? Again, your doing something wrong since that was not a part of your goal. The diet and exercise will control how much fat you gain more than the quantity of juice you take. You want advice? Wait till April before you hit the gear - unless you earn a living from your body that is a lot of juice in a short period of time. Take this opportunity to use some ECA's and Yohimburn. Save your cash and your liver for now.

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

I was not disatisfied with my first cycle but i know i did not use enough test and i crashed badly between my last shot and the clomid i also let my diet go a bit but hay i am bulking at the moment and you learn from your mistakes.

This time my diet will be in check and i am using the winny at the end ( the stated dosage will be reduced to 50mg/eod).

I am starting this cycle next week because i want to get another bulking cycle in before i cut up.


M.A.S.S

 

[brainiac]

What is your hurry?

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

Bump for anyone else's oppinion !!


M.A.S.S

 

[Mike P.T.]

bro this stack looks good. u should be able to gain well off this. as for the antiestrogens. i say stick with the proviron but have nolvadex on hand just in case. or u could just add the nolvadex in there to prevent excess estrogen from reaching receptors and doing its dirty work on increasing bodyfat and water retension. either way i would have both on hand

 

[Cole]

I have almost same cycle for new year:

W.1-10 Deca 400mg

W.1. Sus 1000mg, 2-10 750mg

W.1-5 D´bol 40mg/d

W. 6-12 Winny 50mg/d

W13-14 clomid


Good luck with your cycle bro, keep us posted!