2nd Cycle

[jetty]

This is already in the works but a critique would nevertheless be cool.

I'm in week 2 of this:

Anavar 80 mg/ ED Week 1-6
Tbol 20 mg/ED Week 1-3
Test E 400mg/week (contemplating but considering 6-7 weeks)
PCT - have AIFM, liquidex, finasteride and nolva on hand.

* EQ or Deca (don't have yet) at 400 mg/ week 14 Weeks

I'm torn between these two compounds and here's why:

EQ - causes increased hunger in almost every user. I'm at a high BF% and can't afford this. I'm already taking Phentermine and Rimonobant for appetitte suppression. I do like the idea that it's not nandrolene and I can continue taking finasteride which I have 4 months worth.


Deca - may cause me to be shutdown quicker than EQ and also is nandrolene causing hair loss.

 

[Bruce]

flat out, its all about diet. first off deca is the most calorie dependent steroid so you are gonna have to eat a lot of clean foods. deca gave me a limp dick when i ran it with test. but that is irrelavant. eq gives me amazing results and i dont even run test with it. with that said you really need to take some npp man. its fast acting deca and i am seeing none of the sexual sides or bloat deca gives. you are running the test for 7 weeks. i don't understand.

 

[X Man]

npp is going to give you the gains you want in a much faster period of time then longer acting deca or eq which wont kick in until week 6-7 or so...

btw never ran tbol but i imagine many would agree at 20mg ed for 3 weeks its pointless. id rather save it and get enough to run it 50mgs ed for 5 weeks or so

 

[T-Matt]

I am a big fan of NPP, it's truly amazing! It's a great kick start to a cycle. I wish I would have tried Test Prop/NPP only cycle before I began my current one.

I do prefer EQ over NPP, it just takes too damn long to feel anything from the EQ and that's why I always frontload 1200-1500mgs the first week so I feel something by the middle of week 2. The hunger from EQ is definitely no joke, but if you're eating clean and hitting the gym hard you shouldn't put on too much fat. Hell, I'm eating 10,000 calories per day right now and I'm not gaining ANY fat thanks to Glucorell and Sesapure and my crazy ass GVT workouts.. In fact, I have lost 1% b/f from the beginning of my cycle!!!

You need to run the test longer, no doubt.. If you're going to be running Test E you should at least run it upwards of 10 weeks.. There is something to be

Please don't take this the wrong way but your cycle isn't constructed very well brotha.. I hope you're not too far in. You should have thought about this before you started!!!! I'm not a big fan of oral only cycles, neither are most vets on here.

T-Matt

 

[AhMadKooL]

This is already in the works but a critique would nevertheless be cool.

I'm in week 2 of this:

Anavar 80 mg/ ED Week 1-6
Tbol 20 mg/ED Week 1-3
Test E 400mg/week (contemplating but considering 6-7 weeks)
PCT - have AIFM, liquidex, finasteride and nolva on hand.

* EQ or Deca (don't have yet) at 400 mg/ week 14 Weeks

I'm torn between these two compounds and here's why:

EQ - causes increased hunger in almost every user. I'm at a high BF% and can't afford this. I'm already taking Phentermine and Rimonobant for appetitte suppression. I do like the idea that it's not nandrolene and I can continue taking finasteride which I have 4 months worth.


Deca - may cause me to be shutdown quicker than EQ and also is nandrolene causing hair loss.

As it's been said drop the tbol save it for an upcoming cycle or if you want to use it and it being effective you have to up the dose to atleast 60 mg ED

Use test and preferbly in your case EQ and extend them to atleast 12 weeks. I'm saying preferably EQ since hunger isn't that big an issue especially if your using appetite suppressants as u said.

Best of luck bro

 

[jetty]

great advice guys.. thanks. I'm going to get the EQ and should be fine. My reasoning behind only doing test 7 weeks is that last cycle I did was a clean bulker 16 weeks and the test bloated me a little in the face. All the pictures i got back from the river made me look fat. In my profession image is everything and even though I can bench 395 lbs. if you can't see the lines what good it is. I currently have maintained 18.5 inch arms (very little fat) since my first cycle so that is exciting. This cycle is pretty much a short bulker turned into a cutter. I don't mind being a little bloated but it's nice to know that when the test is gone i can get some vascularity. Running the test will also keep my HPTA from being shutdown as quickly. Can't use proviron cause of DHT issues and my scalp. sorry to ramble....

 

[solidspine]

Run the test from day one, EQ & Deca, 50/50 if you have not used deca, I would try that first.

 

[jetty]

i've got enough test to run it throughout which i may. Even at 300 mg/week i think i'll be able to get some gains we'll see. Can't hurt as long as my face doesn't look like a volleyball.

 

[MR. BMJ]

300mg test 13wks
600mg Eq for 12wks.
60mg var 6wks---->50mg/d winny for wks 7-12.

BMJ

 

[MR. BMJ]

Plus the AIFm and good diet.

BMJ

 

[jetty]

yeah.. i'm starting to think that's the best way. when all the test compounds around week 5 i'm sure i'll get a little bloated but it won't be as bad as doing over 500. I may start out with EQ at 450 mg/week and see how my body responds since i'm fairly new to chemical enhancement. I love var. plain and simple.

 

[Bruce]

i would run a very low dose of test with 400mg of eq ew. like 250mg ew of test just to keep libido up. you should not bloat with that with proper ant es

 

[ninesecz]

Face like a volley ball? oh you mean round???? Is that why they keep calling me pumkinhead?? LMFAO

 

[jetty]

Bruce,

is 200-250mg/week higher than what my body produces naturally? I've heard so many different answers on this. I would like to run EQ for 14 weeks if only at 450mg/week. Yeah, volleyball face isn't too bad for as soon as week 5-6 comes for some reason i get a huge reaction to estrogen or something. Wife comments about it.