2nd Cycle

[raiderron08]

I'm going to try the following cycle, what do you think?

300 mg deca / 8 weeks
40 mg dbol / 5 weeks
50 mg nolv starting the 5th week running until the end
50 mg clomid after cycle is completed

I'm 30, weight is 290 been traning 2 years
1st Cycle was dbol 30 mg per day for 4 weeks

 

[Bruce]

eh 2nd cycle deca at 400-600 bro. keep nolva on hand only use it if you get gyno. what is your bf bro. might wanna keep the dbol at 4 weeks also.
your also gonna want hcg for pct with that nolva and clomid, though i stay far far away from clomid

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I'm going to try the following cycle, what do you think?

300 mg deca / 8 weeks
40 mg dbol / 5 weeks
50 mg nolv starting the 5th week running until the end
50 mg clomid after cycle is completed

I'm 30, weight is 290 been traning 2 years
1st Cycle was dbol 30 mg per day for 4 weeks

290? BF?

 

[raiderron08]

Bft 15%

 

[Bruce]

damn your a big boy man. how tall are you?

 

[raiderron08]

6'-2"

 

[raiderron08]

What do you guys think about adding Sustanon to the mix?

 

[cranny]

Just a suggestion bro, but why not add some test in there w/ the deca? And like Bruce410 said, use the nolva only if you see gyno. Save it for pct. I guess I've never been a fan of running deca w/o a good base of test w/ it.

 

[Bruce]

yeah add the sust if you want, i'd do 250 sust 400 deca if you wanna stack. start the hcg at 250iu's around week 5 so the boys stay in the stable.

 

[raiderron08]

Yea, I was thinking of running Sust. for the test factor, I've never injected before so I wasn't sure about jumping in with two injectables.

 

[Bruce]

oh no problem man just mix the two in there, and do a shot monday and thursday. they are both oil its all good, you don't wanna mix winny(water based gear) with an oil. is your deca 300/ml or 200

 

[raiderron08]

Thanks for the help, Deca is 200

 

[Bruce]

ok so do a cc of deca with half a cc of sust monday and the same on friday, your money. make sure to switch off injection sites u don't want a sterile infection(too much gear in one area) rub the injection around for legit 3-5 mins and eat up. peace

 

[raiderron08]

So you mix them together at the same time, I've been researching and it says to do each one on different days of the week.

 

[Bruce]

no mix them and do it like i said its the way to go

 

[raiderron08]

Thanks Bro, I'll be starting in three weeks then, I'll have to get the sust

 

[cranny]

Yes, definitely mix the 2 together. Also, you say you've never done any injectables. Be sure and draw w/ one needle, swap for a new needle and jab away. I like to draw w/ a 21g and shoot w/ a 23g. You would be suprised how dull a needle can get just going through a rubber stopper.

 

[brandonp005]

Man i would try this then:

Test Eth or Cyp. @ 500mg/wk
Deca @ 400mg/wk
or
Test Eth or Cyp. @500mg/wk
with Dbol. @ 25mg/day for the first 4 weeks

using Nolva for PCT and maybe even HCG depending on your body

 

[raiderron08]

I've looked into Sust and noticed these come in ampules, they are all glass. I might sound dumb but is there some type of tool that comes with them to be able to open them up?

 

[Helmchen]

I've never used Sust so far and I think it depends on source and brand if they come with a little saw/rasp to open the amps. Some glass amps have a neck that is designed so that you can snap it with your fingers without too much trouble. The amps I had so far needed to be worked on with a saw/rasp before you could snap them. As they didn't come with the gear I went to a pharmacy and bought some there for a few cents.

 

[raiderron08]

Thanks

 

[Bruce]

btw i second the notion of using cyp over sust, thats just me though. i'm running 600 deca with 500 cyp