2nd Cycle

[nb01741]

Stats
23 y.o
5'10"
195
14%bf
First cycle was Test E -10wks

Planning on running my second cycle starting Jan.1st
Cycle:
(1-8) Test Prop 150mg eod
(1-4) Tbol 60mg ed
(1-8) Aromasin 12.5 eod
(4-8) hcg 250iu 2x/week

PCT:
Clomid 25x4
Unleashed/Post Cycle
Aromasin?

Towards the end of my first cycle, I learned that I am pretty gyno prone (I used forma only as my AI and got slight gyno at the end of my cycle). Any thoughts or suggestions on my planned cycle?

Also my main question is...how bad is the PIP from Prop?? Is it worse than injectable Winny? I ran Winny for like 3 weeks as my "first" cycle and the pain was so unbelievable I had to quit. I also didn't know wtf I was doing and had golf balls all over my ass...so....Now I know what I'm doing, so what can I expect as far as PIP goes with the Prop?
Thanks

 

[bigbassturd]

Run the aromasin on cycle but use forma for pct.

The pip from prop isn't bad if you have good gear and do a proper injection....it's bearable for sure. PIP varies from one lab to another..

 

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HCG throughout cycle

 

[nb01741]

Run the aromasin on cycle but use forma for pct.

The pip from prop isn't bad if you have good gear and do a proper injection....it's bearable for sure. PIP varies from one lab to another..

Ok good to hear... You think I'd be fine with rotating quads and glutes? Or is 4 not enough? Would rather not do delts but if 4 isn't enough I guess I'll have to.

 

[nb01741]

How does Prop PIP compare to inj. winny?

 

[dylangemelli]

it just depends on the lab bro... if you have the right lab, then prop and winnie can both be fairly painless... most have bad PIP because the source is not the best... delts will actually be less painful than quads if the lab sucks... delt is not a bad injection... obviously there's less muscle to choose from than in the quad so its more sensitive in terms of total area for use but its not bad at all... it depends on the total cc's your injecting, the oils, etc... you can run aromasin all cycle and if your gyno prone then continue it in pct... i normally recommend forma in pct but if your really sensitive then stay on aromasin... run tbol 6 weeks as opposed to four... if you do get forma, mr supps has it 35% off right now so it would be a great time to get it...

 

[JoeBlob]

it just depends on the lab bro... if you have the right lab, then prop and winnie can both be fairly painless... most have bad PIP because the source is not the best... delts will actually be less painful than quads if the lab sucks... delt is not a bad injection... obviously there's less muscle to choose from than in the quad so its more sensitive in terms of total area for use but its not bad at all... it depends on the total cc's your injecting, the oils, etc... you can run aromasin all cycle and if your gyno prone then continue it in pct... i normally recommend forma in pct but if your really sensitive then stay on aromasin... run tbol 6 weeks as opposed to four... if you do get forma, mr supps has it 35% off right now so it would be a great time to get it...

This^^ Tbol 6 weeks, Aromasin throughout.

 

[nb01741]

it just depends on the lab bro... if you have the right lab, then prop and winnie can both be fairly painless... most have bad PIP because the source is not the best... delts will actually be less painful than quads if the lab sucks... delt is not a bad injection... obviously there's less muscle to choose from than in the quad so its more sensitive in terms of total area for use but its not bad at all... it depends on the total cc's your injecting, the oils, etc... you can run aromasin all cycle and if your gyno prone then continue it in pct... i normally recommend forma in pct but if your really sensitive then stay on aromasin... run tbol 6 weeks as opposed to four... if you do get forma, mr supps has it 35% off right now so it would be a great time to get it...

Awesome. Thanks for the reply man, I'm going to run Tbol for 6 weeks, and Aromasin throughout.

I'll have to try out my delt, but I'm going to see how the quad goes first and how bad it is- hopefully I won't regret that...
Thanks for the help tho

 

[dylangemelli]

Awesome. Thanks for the reply man, I'm going to run Tbol for 6 weeks, and Aromasin throughout.

I'll have to try out my delt, but I'm going to see how the quad goes first and how bad it is- hopefully I won't regret that...
Thanks for the help tho

make sure you are using the right pins... 23 1 1/2 for the quads and 25 1 for the delt...

 

[nb01741]

Is 1" not sufficient for quads? That's what I've always used and never seemed to have any problems... 1" for glutes was a different story though... If you use 1 1/2 for quads do you just not stick it in all the way?