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2nd cycle, what do you think?

Tbag85

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Dbols 50mg a day week 1 - 4
Test E 600mg week 1 - 10

PCT

HCGenerate Week 9 - 12
Unleashed & post cycle Week 13 - 16
Forma Stanozol Week 13 - 16

Should i take forma longer?

Thanks
 
You need cycle support. Switch hcgenerate from pct to during cycle and add n2guard..and yes we need stats otherwise we will go no further. :evil:
 
STATS! Before we comment any further.


Your PCT is messed up and i'll tell you why after we see the above.
 
Regardless of your stats, your PCT is no good. You need nolva and/or clomid. Other than that it looks like a good cycle. Theres no need to run test longer than 10 wks., gains will diminish greatly after 8. I like how you're keeping the dbol portion of it short, I personally can never stand to be on dbol for more than 3 or 4 wks..it makes me so bloated I feel like I just ate Thanksgiving dinner 24/7.
 
Regardless of your stats, your PCT is no good. You need nolva and/or clomid. Other than that it looks like a good cycle. Theres no need to run test longer than 10 wks., gains will diminish greatly after 8. I like how you're keeping the dbol portion of it short, I personally can never stand to be on dbol for more than 3 or 4 wks..it makes me so bloated I feel like I just ate Thanksgiving dinner 24/7.

You are incorrect. Your pct is junk does nothing for you. Clomid does nothing. Nolva is for gyno and still is junk.

You need something to boost free test nolva or clomid do either one.

His pct is fine just needs to add two weeks to forma
 
You are incorrect. Your pct is junk does nothing for you. Clomid does nothing. Nolva is for gyno and still is junk.

You need something to boost free test nolva or clomid do either one.

His pct is fine just needs to add two weeks to forma

I am incorrect? Clomid and Nolva are no good for PCT? Really?

I have run at least 15 cycles using every substance imaginable and used Clomid and/or Nolva for my PCT in every single one of them. I have never had a problem keeping gains or bouncing back from a cycle. Within a couple weeks of using either of these drugs I can literally see my balls getting bigger and my sex drive goes back to normal. I have used Clomid for PCT after 20 week tren cycles and still didn't have a problem bouncing back. These 2 substances have been used for decades for PCT, they are tried and true. I don't know what new band wagon you're on or what lame over the counter crap you're trying to push, but telling people clomid and nolva are no good is just crap advice.
 
Age - 26
height - 6'2
weight - 84kg

Did a 10 week Test E cycle a year ago with great results, however went on a working holiday and lost majority of my gains, looking to put size back on!

What if I add Nolva to PCT so it looks like this?

HCGenerate Week 9 - 12
Unleashed & post cycle Week 13 - 16
Forma Stanozol Week 13 - 16
Nolva week - 13 - 16 (30,30,20,20)
 
ive got no problem using clomid or even torem in pct... if your going to use clomid, run it at a low dose... 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 or torem at 90/60/60/30 but I will never advocate using nolva... its shit... I don't give a fuck what anyone says... its not a pct period... your pct setup is perfect except for nolva... low dose clomid would be a great option to go along with it...
 
I am incorrect? Clomid and Nolva are no good for PCT? Really?

I have run at least 15 cycles using every substance imaginable and used Clomid and/or Nolva for my PCT in every single one of them. I have never had a problem keeping gains or bouncing back from a cycle. Within a couple weeks of using either of these drugs I can literally see my balls getting bigger and my sex drive goes back to normal. I have used Clomid for PCT after 20 week tren cycles and still didn't have a problem bouncing back. These 2 substances have been used for decades for PCT, they are tried and true. I don't know what new band wagon you're on or what lame over the counter crap you're trying to push, but telling people clomid and nolva are no good is just crap advice.

Yea, thats just the problem ur stuck in the 80's!

You know shit about free test and recovery thats obvisously just pin and go with whats popular.

Clomid not the worst by far from the best.

Take ur tren and run ur nolva have fun but just face it pops ur pct is shit!

Not on a ban wagon just in 2012 not 1980
 
Age - 26
height - 6'2
weight - 84kg

Did a 10 week Test E cycle a year ago with great results, however went on a working holiday and lost majority of my gains, looking to put size back on!

What if I add Nolva to PCT so it looks like this?

HCGenerate Week 9 - 12
Unleashed & post cycle Week 13 - 16
Forma Stanozol Week 13 - 16
Nolva week - 13 - 16 (30,30,20,20)


So should I add either nolva or clomid then or leave them out?

Whats the worst either of these products will do if i add them to my pct?

Will also do forma from weeks 11 - 16!
 
So should I add either nolva or clomid then or leave them out?

Whats the worst either of these products will do if i add them to my pct?

Will also do forma from weeks 11 - 16!


you can add clomid at a low dose... 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 there's no need to go any higher than that... do not add nolva at all bro... its a shit pct... its not going to help you recover... low dose clomid with everything else you have lined up and you will have an excellent pct...
 
Yea, thats just the problem ur stuck in the 80's!

You know shit about free test and recovery thats obvisously just pin and go with whats popular.

Clomid not the worst by far from the best.

Take ur tren and run ur nolva have fun but just face it pops ur pct is shit!

Not on a ban wagon just in 2012 not 1980

Hahaha! Ok guy, I'm gonna stay stuck in the 80's and keep running nolva/clomid PCT...while I'm popping my pills I'll put a Duran Duran cassette tape on my boombox, or maybe watch a movie from an era when Eddie Murphy was till funny on my VCR
 
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