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aced1

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whats up mates? was planning my second cycle,a bulking one, and i wanted to hear some thoughts. will start it in about 4 months or so but it is good to plan it solid and get everything i need first. (btw its my 1st ACTUAL cycle as the first was an anavar only cycle)

stats that im planning reaching before starting:
height: 170 cm
weight: 80 kg
bf: < 11%
age: 22

week 1-14 : test e 500 mg/week
week 1-14 : EQ 600 mg/week
week 1-4 : Dbol 30 mg/day

- HCGenerate also while on cycle
- N2GUARD while on cycle

PCT : week 16-20
Unleashed
Post cycle (or forged post cycle ?? )
DAA
Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 (wondering if i could avoid this)
forma stanzol

questions:
-are these too many comps for second cycle??
-should i get another AI like letro or forma will do the job?
-post cycle or forged post ?

thanks in advance guys !
 
aced1 said:
whats up mates? was planning my second cycle,a bulking one, and i wanted to hear some thoughts. will start it in about 4 months or so but it is good to plan it solid and get everything i need first. (btw its my 1st ACTUAL cycle as the first was an anavar only cycle)

stats that im planning reaching before starting:
height: 170 cm
weight: 80 kg
bf: < 11%
age: 22

week 1-14 : test e 500 mg/week
week 1-14 : EQ 600 mg/week
week 1-4 : Dbol 30 mg/day

- HCGenerate also while on cycle
- N2GUARD while on cycle

PCT : week 16-20
Unleashed
Post cycle (or forged post cycle ?? )
DAA
Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 (wondering if i could avoid this)
forma stanzol

questions:
-are these too many comps for second cycle??
-should i get another AI like letro or forma will do the job?
-post cycle or forged post ?

thanks in advance guys !
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All looks good, tbh. If you can, try to run the EQ for 16 weeks, it's results are at it's best at that range. Then just move your PCT on accordingly.

Questions:

What was your first cycle like? That would typically dictate what your 2nd should be.
Forma is good. If you really want to play it proper safe, have something like letro on hand in case.
Post Cycle and Unleashed ... good enough. You can stick with the Clomid. Glad to see there's no Nolva in your PCT.
 
thanks for the quick reply.
so if im going to run EQ for 16 weeks shouldnt i do that for test as well ??
il get some letro by the way. better be safe than sorry ;) first time pinning so i want everything to be in place.
my first cycle was pretty good. some sold gains with bf reduction, and a lot of strenght increase. nothing outstanding but i got what i was expecting for
 
Pleasure :D What did your 1st cycle actually look like ... what did you use at what dosages and for how long? You say this is your first pinning cycle? Have you obtained all the goodies you are going to use on this cycle? If not, then please rather just run a 12 weeker of Test at 350mg/wk pinning 175 on Mon and again on Thu. For a first proper AAS cycle, you have too many things in there and although your cycle lay-out is pretty good, you could run into some problems.

You haven't pinned Test before, so you don't know how your body reacts to it. Now, you add DBol to the mix ... have you used this before and know how much bloat you get and how prone you are for gyno? And to top it off, you have EQ in the mix as well ... so, if you DO experience adverse effects, then how will you know which compound is causing it?

I always advise ppl to start with a test only cycle of 350mg/wk on cycle 1, then on the 2nd go up to 450mg/wk and check your tolerances. For the 3rd go up to 500mg and check again. Tha t way, not only do you get to know and feel your body's reaction to it, but you do not flood and oversaturate your receptors too soon. Following that, you can look at kicking with DBol and Test together, and if all goes well, then add EQ to the mix. Running a cycle like yours for a first actual AAS cycle, you are going to flood your receptors and you'll limit your gains on reasonable dosages for any future cycles.
 
thats why i asked if too many combounds :/
ofc i didnt get anything wanted to discuss about the cycle and then get everything i need.
so u are suggesting test e only on 350 mg/week? i hear y man and i've seen that a lot of times so i suppose i should stick with this. not even add a kick-started
by the way what should i skip from PCT on a test only cycle?
ofc i will keep HCGenerate on cycle , not N2GUARD though..
just go with post cycle / unleashed (+letro) ? maybe some clomid as well and some DAA as it cheap but skip the forma?
or not change anything and stick to the same PCT? what would you say about that ?

Edit: first cycle was anavar only. 60mg/day for 6 weeks.
 
aced1 said:
thats why i asked if too many combounds :/
ofc i didnt get anything wanted to discuss about the cycle and then get everything i need.
so u are suggesting test e only on 350 mg/week? i hear y man and i've seen that a lot of times so i suppose i should stick with this. not even add a kick-started
by the way what should i skip from PCT on a test only cycle?
ofc i will keep HCGenerate on cycle , not N2GUARD though..
just go with post cycle / unleashed (+letro) ? maybe some clomid as well and some DAA as it cheap but skip the forma?
or not change anything and stick to the same PCT? what would you say about that ?

Edit: first cycle was anavar only. 60mg/day for 6 weeks.
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if you had good results with anavar, you could run it on the back end of your test cycle... so if you run your test 12 weeks, you could start anavar week 7 through 12... i definitely wouldn't run three compounds on your first cycle bro... like my boy essie said, how will you know what your reacting to if something is giving you problems? if you start with test alone and run into problems then you know what the culprit is... you should still run n2guard with this... i would have aromasin on hand as opposed to letro... your pct should be just like you had it laid out... that was spot on...
 
good thanks for the help guys. so now i came up with this:

week 1-12 test e 350/mg week
week 7-12 anavar 60mg/day
week 7-12 proviron 50mg/day (cuz of anavar? or again 2 much? just saying :D )

OCT : N2GUARD
HCGenerate

PCT: week 14-18

Unleashed
Post cycle
DAA
Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
forma stanzol

+ aromasin on hand just in case...

thoughts ?
 
aced1 said:
good thanks for the help guys. so now i came up with this:

week 1-12 test e 350/mg week
week 7-12 anavar 60mg/day
week 7-12 proviron 50mg/day (cuz of anavar? or again 2 much? just saying :D )

OCT : N2GUARD
HCGenerate

PCT: week 14-18

Unleashed
Post cycle
DAA
Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
forma stanzol

+ aromasin on hand just in case...

thoughts ?
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you could bump your test if you like but otherwise, that cycle is looking lovely bro!
 
thanks dylan its nice to hear that from y :) bump up test to 500 mg/week? thats what i was thinkin but essie said i should stick with 350mg for first test cycle to see how it goes..what do you think of that?
 
aced1 said:
thanks dylan its nice to hear that from y :) bump up test to 500 mg/week? thats what i was thinkin but essie said i should stick with 350mg for first test cycle to see how it goes..what do you think of that?
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either way... essie gives great advice and he is being wise in being a bit conservative... i have no problem with it either way... personally, i would do the 500 but that's just how i do things... i don't go overboard but i go a bit higher just to get every bit out of it that i can... its really up to what your comfort is... maybe start at 350 and see how you react and if your all good then bump to 500...
 
i think thats the best plan. il start at 350 and if all goes well for first 2-3 weeks il bump it to 500 ;) by the way do i need to hit all recomended doses for N2GUARD and HCGenerate at recommended doses? cuz its too much cash for 12 weeks...
 
aced1 said:
i think thats the best plan. il start at 350 and if all goes well for first 2-3 weeks il bump it to 500 ;) by the way do i need to hit all recomended doses for N2GUARD and HCGenerate at recommended doses? cuz its too much cash for 12 weeks...
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for this cycle, the n2guard is going to be the most important to use when you start to use anavar... personally i would be using it the entire time HOWEVER, the anavar portion of the cycle is going to be when its needed the most... also... the hcgenerate is up to you.... i would at the minimum be using it for 30 days... you do not want to go into pct with too much suppression and anavar can definitely cause that...
 
yeah ur right about sussp but what do u mean minimum of 30 days? i mean its a 12 week cycle..what 30 days u talking about? :p 30 days before PCT last 30 days of cycle? what? :D
 
at least the last 30 before pct... i would do longer than that honestly but that would be the absolute minimum

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