2nd cycle- please review & comment

[MadCow1]

Total agreement with Realgains.

I have seen world champion lifters use less drugs than your 2nd cycle. They have a career of lifting and years of steroid use behind them yet they still make gains in strength and size.

Actually you are planning to use more than I've ever used and I have well over a decade of lifting behind me in power/olympic lifting and somewhere north of 14 cycles.

You probably won't hurt yourself as gear is relatively safe but more concentration is needed on lifting rather than drugs.

 

[jc21]

i agree too...too much gear. the test should be at 500-750 mg /wk at the most....and the sust injections should be spaced as far apart as possible to take advantage of fast acting esters.

nolva should not be needed unless you are very prone to gyno, it will hinder your gains. go with liquidex or arimidex.

no reason to use two low doses of eq and deca i say use a moderate dose of 400mg/wk of one.

it is up to you..but i think this would be good.
week 1-10 750mg/wk sust
week 1-10 400mg/wk deca
week 1-5 30-35mg/day dbol
week 14-16 clomid
week 1-16 arimidex/liquidex

 

[builtbc83]

how woudl you go about splitting up the shots of sust, since they are 250mg/amp?? how long between injections?

thanks for the comments!

Bern

 

[MadCow1]

how woudl you go about splitting up the shots of sust, since they are 250mg/amp?? how long between injections?

thanks for the comments!

Bern

Sust: 1cc every Monday and Thursday.
Drop the dbol
Use either deca or equip at 200-300mg.

 

[NFG123]

There is no reason to use so much gear bro....unless you are well above your natural maximum weight which I doubt.


Try this Test 500/week and Eq or deca at 400 per week. Plenty gear! ....maybe too much. REALLY bro. There are so many on this board that preach large doses but they are not needed until after you get much bigger than your natural maximum weight.
So if you use a ton of gear you are doing two things...stressing the body beyond what is needed and pissing money away too.


Be sure to do a loading dose of a gram of test and 800 eq or deca on day one and then you will not need the d-bol to kick stsrt the cycle. Who the heck needs this 17aa roid anyway...its toxic as hell and totally unnecessary if one front loads injectables.

Loading does not cause blood hormone levels to skyrocket as time is needed to de-esterfy. Also these moderate loads do not cause blood hormone levels to reach a higher levels than what would be possible by weeek three if you didn't front load.......it just gets blood hormone levels up to muscle building levels quickly.
Eat well ,train smart, and sleep a lot and you will grow like a weed.

I completely agree with real gains. Way too much fucking gear ... WHY are you stacking nandrolone and EQ????? Pick one!

NFG

 

[builtbc83]

if I'm doing 500mg/wk of sust then its not a problem, if I wanna go with jc21's cycle and do 750/wk then i have no real even way of breaking up the injections...thats what i was referring to.

I am going to run Decca instead of EQ on this cycle.

Bern

 

[serge]

first cycle I ran 500mg of sust/300mg of Deca a week, all in one shot, and did 30mg of Dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. this is what I'm thinking for this cycle:

WEEK1 - 10
-sust- 1000mg/wk (2 shots)
-deca- 300mg/wk (mixed with test inj 1)
-EQ 250mg/wk (mixed with test inj 2)
- DBOL weeks 1-4

Clomid starting 3 weeks after my last test shot.

Anyone have anything you would do differently or switch around?I currently plan on doing an injection every 4 days Sunday and thursday.

I am currently at 14%bf, and want to try and get as ripped as I can on this...hoping that they EQ might help that out....

thanks for your time bros!
Bern

on a second cycle you would do very very well on just 1000mg/test week and dboll 30-50mg/ed all the way through for 8-10weeks

 

[builtbc83]

so serge your going against the grain of everyone else and saying that I should just go ahead and run the gram of test a week (2 500mg shots)?

You dont feel thats overkill?

Bern

 

[serge]

so serge your going against the grain of everyone else and saying that I should just go ahead and run the gram of test a week (2 500mg shots)?

You dont feel thats overkill?

Bern

it really depends on your goals, is it an overkill? maybe, maybe not, will you make great gains if you only take 500mg/test/week along with 50mg/dboll/ed??? MOST DEFINETLY, will you make much more progress with 1000mg/test/week along with the dboll??? YOU BET.......will you get signinficantly more sides with 1000mg/test when compare to 500mg/test???.......not likely

ITS ALL ABOUT HOW FAST YOU WANT TO GO UP, if you want to keep making steady progress then increase your doses from cycle to cycle consevatevly, if you want to keep blowing up at the fastest rate possible then more agressive cycles are deffinetly the route you want to take