2nd cycle how does it look

[TBOT]

ok going to try a 2nd cycle. First cycle had nice results in my opinion and it was 300mg test cyp and 250 mg primo per week. my stats are 218lbs 13% bf 6foot 1inch and have bin hitting the weights on and off for 7 years on hard now for 9months and hit a hard plattow.

Ok the cycle
weeks 1 thru 14
500mg test ew
300mg winny inj ew

Weeks 1 thru 5
anadrol ?mg ed

weeks 14 thru 17
HCG 1500mcg eod

weeks 14 thru 18
25mg nova ed

please critique bros

 

[Stacemranger]

If you're using anadrol, just go slow with it. Most people will get great results from 50mg ED.

 

[gettnlarge01]

what do you want to accomplish with this cycle?

 

[TBOT]

To break through this plattow and cut up more

 

[black sheep]

OK first of all WInny is a 17aa even if you inject it. Therefore I would not take another 17aa, especailly anadrol along with it.

Secondly, if you are looking to cut up more - I would not use anadrol either. Most people blow up like the stay puff marshmellow man.

Lastly - I would not use anadrol due to the sides - it is too harsh and the gains are shitty at best IMO.

I would suggest something along the lines of Test/Tren/Winny. Maybe a 8 week something like this:

1-10 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-8 Tren Ace 100mg EOD
5-10 Winny (Drink It) 50mg ED (25mg every 12 hours)

That will accomplish what you are looking to do.

 

[TBOT]

havent done checked out tren can i get some info on it or a link

 

[black sheep]

Use the search my friend... Tren, aka Fina, is a very well like compound. There is tons of info out there on it - including this site.

 

[gettnlarge01]

I wouldn"t recommend tren for a 2nd cycle but if you decide to then you need to start a 50mg/eod to see how you respond and if needed then you can go to 50mg/ed.tren is a powerful drug!!test and winny can get you past your plateu as long as diet and training are right

 

[TBOT]

so if i ran just the test and winny i should be good? should i substitute dbols for ana or leave it out all together

 

[black sheep]

so if i ran just the test and winny i should be good? should i substitute dbols for ana or leave it out all together

DO NOT DO 2 17aa in the same cycle

I did tren for my second cycle - There is no real need to build up to it. 75mg eod is the LOWEST I would run it. I did it for #2 - at 100mg EOD - Loved it!

 

[boston789]

I would definately not run two orals in the same cycle especially something like anadrol and winny or dbol. All 3 are very harsh in their own way...obviously winny is the weaker of the three but still can be/is very harsh. Also running tren in my second cycle may be a little bit of the problem due to the sides and your lack of AAS experience. If you wanna use it though I would use tren ace first at 50mg ed and see if the sides are too much for you and if they are then you can just drop it like that. Tren needs to shot ed. I would just stick with the test/winny cycle. You can make great gains from that if your diet and training is in check.

 

[instant.muscle]

wouldnt do winny for 14 weeks, do tren for first 7 and winny for last 7 weeks, u'll love that

 

[TBOT]

Winny wouldnt be oral it would be injectable. anadrol was just to kick start the cycle.

 

[D-Shots]

Plateau.

 

[krishna]

I wouldn't take winny for 14 weeks. Also, if it's test e, don't start the nolva and hcg until week 16.

 

[TBOT]

it would be test cyp its what i used before and i liked it

 

[jagerbombme]

friend of mine who runs tren enanth all the time tried tren ace once at 75mg eod and said it scared the piss outta him, but he can run 400mg per wek of tren enanth with no problems. he recommended me if i tried tren ace to do it at 25mg eod to start