2nd Cycle Help

[gear90]

Hi all i am just wanting a bit of help with my second cycle

I am wanting to run;

1-10 wks eq 300mg/wk
1-8 wks sustanon 250mg/wk
1-6 wks dbol 50mg ED

Would i be best to run the sus at 500mg/wk spreading it across 2 jabs or would i get better results running sus at 500mg/wk for 4 weeks then adding prop for the other 4 weeks every second day?

OR, what would you suggest...i have at the moment;
8ml or 250mg/ml of sustanon
10ml of eq 300mg/ml
2ml of eq 200mg/ml
60 or so 50mg dbol tabs

Some help would be great.
Cheers

 

[gear90]

put this to the top again.....anyone with any help???
cheers

 

[littlevedds]

If you want anything from the eq, you better run at LEAST 12 weeks, if no 14.
The sus shoulb be fine at 500mg.
try tapering down from dbol. The sus will kick in around week 4 (person dependant) so your gains from then on will be solid.

1 50
2 50
3 50
4 40
5 30
6 30

Whats your PCT?

 

[gear90]

OK so if i run the eq for 12 weeks at 300mg/wk split into two jabs along with the sus at 500mg/wk at the same time and tapering the dbol from 50 to 30 at the end of week 6?

PCT is like this;
Arimidex ed during the cycle at .5mg to try and keep my est from reaching abnormal levels. then clomid 4 weeks after last shot of eq at 60mg ed 2 weeks

OR do you think running the arimidex during the cycle will mean that the clomid is not needed? or will running the arimidex will decrease the gains?

After the last shot of eq cal and protein intake will increase to maintain the gains also

what ya think?

 

[kc17]

running adex during cycle doesn't mean you can skip PCT Bro.!!!!!!!!

 

[gear90]

OK, i just thought as the estrogen is kept low and is actually suppressive of itself that it wouldn't reach that high level and need time to reduce if you know what i mean. But yeah too easy. Any other comments on the PCT?

 

[littlevedds]

Use the adex as needed. Some people dont get sides on 500 a week, but that varies person to person. Do you know if your gyno prone? If so, .5mg EOD or even E3D would be ok.
PCT - clomid after 25mg will probably give you some nasty sides with no more benefit.
The best would be formastanzol (5pumps am, 5 pumps pm ED) starting after your last oral through the end of PCT.
Start PCT 3 weeks after pinning last test.
Look at unleashed/ post cycle (3tabs ED for both for 4 weeks) instead of clomid.

consider this

1 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 50
2 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 50
3 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 50
4 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 40
5 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 30
6 sus 500, eq 300, dbol 30
7 sus 500, eq 300, forma
8 sus 500, eq 300, forma
9 sus 500, eq 300, forma
10 sus 500, eq 300, forma
11 sus 500, eq 300, forma
12 sus 500, eq 300, forma
13 forma
14 forma
15 forma, unleashed, post cycle
16 forma, unleashed, post cycle
17 forma, unleashed, post cycle
18 forma, unleashed, post cycle

 

[gear90]

nar mate never had any trouble with my fist cycle.

OK so do the sus for the same period as the eq? would you get any advantage starting the eq in say week 2 or 3 when the sus hits?

is there any benefit of adding in forged rather than the unleashed for the PCT?

 

[littlevedds]

Alright.

No advantage running eq later. like i said, you wont see the eq working untill about 8 weeks because you need to build the plasma levels in your blood. and the eq needs test, it mildly supresses you, so keep them the same times. the sus has some very long esters, so it will stay with your for a few weeks after, as will the eq.

I havent seen Forged being used alot, but, no doubt, the unleashed will work!
You may if you wish, but i think that combo is the best bang..

 

[gear90]

Too easy, looks like i will stick with what you have mentioned above. Thanks for your input it is greatly appreciated!

 

[GreenhornetJ]

hozit guys!

also doing my second cycle! Gona run a 5 week var at 60mg
2 week winny at 50mg to finish it off as well as proviron 40mg a day for the last 2 weeks!

Did a 7 week week var at 60mg for my first cycle and got awesome results

Stats - 96kg
1.87m
9 % bf
wana get down to 6 percent .Diet is always good

any comments would be appreciated as well as what pct would be best?

cheers guys

 

[gear90]

littlevedds are you able to suggest something else that i could run instead of the forma along side the unleashed? I am having trouble finding forma in aus. The best place i can find pct gear from is onlinenutrion. Would Res100 be ok to take the place of forma? I have heard alot of people stating they like it better than the forma? I would still like to run the unleashed in my 4 week PCT so something else even that i could run along side with that would be great. Also sustain alpha i have read and it seems to go well???
Cheers bro

 

[littlevedds]

Alpha sustain looks like a test booster, which wouldnt be a bad thing. But what i was looking for was a formestane product which controls estrogen, and also help (a little) to boost T. Adding the formestane product hlf way through will make PCT easier, and you get better effect from the steroids (apparently).
the res100, i couldnt really find what it was. is contains milk thistle extract which leads me to believe it would help the liver in some way (not sure about that method).
Try Mrsupps. and .
Nutra planet ships international, i think mrsupps does too.
product is called formestane by controlled labs. (you need 2 bottles)
mrsupps it formastanzol. (just 1 bottle)

 

[gear90]

the problem is in aus any product with formestane is illegal and i cannot get a hold of it from anyone i know. That is why i was after something else similar.....but doesnt seem like any is ay?

 

[littlevedds]

Oh, I see.
Not off the top of my head, no.
Try digging through the forums, or posting a new thread to see what others have heard/seen.
Sorry that im of no help here.

 

[gear90]

too easy thanks mate helped alot with my on cycle anyways cheers

 

[littlevedds]

Anytime.
Good luck!