2nd cycle advice

[lombardi727]

What's up bros this is my first post on here and im excited to get on the boards! lot of great info on here! So anyways down to business... I am currently 24 years old, 6'0 tall, and 198lbs. I am just starting pct for my first cycle which consisted of:

Week 1-5: D-bol 30mg
Week 1-10: Test E 500mg per week

I gained a solid 18lbs off the cycle so i was pretty happy with that. Had a great diet and trained harder than ever. So now I am setting up my second cycle. I have everything i need for it and this is how it looks as of now:

Weeks 1-10: Test E 250mg
Weeks 1-8: Tren ace 300mg
Weeks 7-12: Winstrol 35mg

My main concern is gyno. I am pretty sensative right now with small "BBs" under my nipples. (fml) I am currently on 20mg of nolva, 50mg of clomid and .125mg of liquid prami every night. I am definitely waiting till my gyno is completely gone for at least a solid month before I start again.

Any advice?? Thanks!

 

[Judo Tom]

1st i wouldnt stay on clomid for that long or even nolva.. so id do more research on gyno removal.. but i do hope its working for you.

2nd thats a lot of juice and compounds for a 2nd cycle.

I always say if your first cycle is great.. just run it again as your 2nd. you dont need to increase the dosage and you will know exactly how to deal w/ the sides.

If you are gonna run that Id lower the tren and make sure you are really ready to deal w/ everything that comes w/ tren and how to deal with it.

 

[RADAR]

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[lombardi727]

I'm on clomid and nolva for 30 days each. But thanks radar ill look into those. Ya I see where you're coming from about dealing with the sides while on cycle

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[nydj66]

What's up bros this is my first post on here and im excited to get on the boards! lot of great info on here! So anyways down to business... I am currently 24 years old, 6'0 tall, and 198lbs. I am just starting pct for my first cycle which consisted of:

Week 1-5: D-bol 30mg
Week 1-10: Test E 500mg per week

I gained a solid 18lbs off the cycle so i was pretty happy with that. Had a great diet and trained harder than ever. So now I am setting up my second cycle. I have everything i need for it and this is how it looks as of now:

Weeks 1-10: Test E 250mg
Weeks 1-8: Tren ace 300mg
Weeks 7-12: Winstrol 35mg

My main concern is gyno. I am pretty sensative right now with small "BBs" under my nipples. (fml) I am currently on 20mg of nolva, 50mg of clomid and .125mg of liquid prami every night. I am definitely waiting till my gyno is completely gone for at least a solid month before I start again.

Any advice?? Thanks!

First the gyno advice:

I had a pea sized lump under my left nipple for 3 years (it came from my first tren cycle and got aggrevated by every cycle after that).

I took 2.5mg/day of letrozole for 4 weeks and it went away completely. However, it was a miserable 28 days. Not only did I have no libido, it made me feel irritate if my wife laid a hand on me anywhere. I also had to jump on nolvadex for 2 weeks after the letrozole because I experienced an estrogen rebound.


Regarding your proposed cycle:

You would be wise to keep the test dosage higher than the tren dosage to avoid libido issues. Also don't use nolvadex during or after your cycle; nolvadex doesn't mix with tren or deca.

I see what you're trying to do, finishing the cycle with winstrol while the test ester clears. However, tren and winny work great together so I would shoot for more over-lap. Maybe:

wk 1-8: 400mg/wk Test-prop (split into 3 injections)
wk 1-6: 300mg/wk Tren-ace (split into 3 injections)
wk 3-8: 35mg/day winstrol
wk 10-13: PCT

 

[lombardi727]

Yes I have some letro on hand and I know that it is very powerful so there is that estro rebound that u gotta watch out for. Unfortunately I don't have any prop but that cycle you put on would be ideal I know

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[lombardi727]

And I could always do 250mg of both test and tren ace to even it out as well

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[nydj66]

Yes I have some letro on hand and I know that it is very powerful so there is that estro rebound that u gotta watch out for. Unfortunately I don't have any prop but that cycle you put on would be ideal I know

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How about this:

wk 1-8: 375mg/wk Test-E
wk 1-6: 300mg/wk tren-ace (split into 3 injections)
wk 3-8: 35mg/day winstrol
wk 9-10: 500IU HCG EOD
wk 11-13: PCT

Just add 0.5ml of your test-E to every tren injection and jump on HCG for 2 weeks post-cycle to let the ester clear.

 

[lombardi727]

Looks great man thanks so much. I have another question though. How do you put two different substances in the same syringe?

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[nydj66]

Looks great man thanks so much. I have another question though. How do you put two different substances in the same syringe?

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There's two methods:

1.) Draw one first, then the other into the same syringe (the 2nd dose isn't completely accurate since you can't return the mix back into the vial if you draw too much.

2.) Draw the first dose into a syringe. Remove the needle and pull the plunger back to allow room for the 2nd substance. Measure out the 2nd substance using a different syringe, then inject it into the first syringe through the small opening.


Any oil based gear can be combined in this way to minimize the number of injections you have to endure.

 

[lombardi727]

Alright sounds good. Ill just draw the tren first

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[curls4girls]

Bump that test up!!! I did test 750mg ew and tren 350mg ew and was fine.

 

[lombardi727]

Wish I could I need more money lol..

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