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2nd Cycle Advice

Turbo18

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Im 26 198lbs 5'9.. Not sure of body fat..
My first cycle was a year ago and consisted of:

Sust:250mg 1-10
Win: 100mg EOD 1-10
PCT: HCG following cycles end then Clomid 4 weeks following


Had Very nice gains from this.. Went from 173lbs to 186lbs and almost doubled my lifting.

I have gained an additional 10lbs since and not in the good way..Im leaning towards

Test C or E 500mg week 1-10
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg EOD 4-10
VAR 50mg EOD 4-10
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 16 days following last test inj. and someone told me to use Armidex.

Looking for a few opinions and experiences.. Possible Ideas of gains and suggestions. Looking to gain roughly 20lbs.. Trying to be safe as possible.. Is there something other than HCG I should be taking during cycle?
Thanks in advance for any advice..
 
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Turbo18 said:
Im 26 198lbs 5'9.. Not sure of body fat..
My first cycle was a year ago and consisted of:

Sust:250mg 1-10
Win: 100mg EOD 1-10
PCT: HCG following cycles end then Clomid 4 weeks following


Had Very nice gains from this.. Went from 173lbs to 186lbs and almost doubled my lifting.

I have gained an additional 10lbs since and not in the good way..Im leaning towards

Test C or E 500mg week 1-10
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg EOD 4-10
VAR 50mg EOD 4-10
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 16 days following last test inj. and someone told me to use Armidex.

Looking for a few opinions and experiences.. Possible Ideas of gains and suggestions. Looking to gain roughly 20lbs.. Trying to be safe as possible.. Is there something other than HCG I should be taking during cycle?
Thanks in advance for any advice..

Test C or E 500mg week 1-12
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg ED 6-12
dbol 30mg ED 1-4
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 50mg ed 14 days following last test inj. for 4 weeks
 
8and20 said:
Test C or E 500mg week 1-12
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg ED 6-12
dbol 30mg ED 1-4
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 50mg ed 14 days following last test inj. for 4 weeks

good cycle 8and20 , i would think an ai on hand or low dose ai during cycle would be good too, better to be safe then sorry

peace
 
buffut1 said:
I personally would use VAR and Win in the same cycle... but other than that looks good.

for me they are very similar. i almost thought of telling him actually to ditch the winny and use the var instead.

either is fine.
 
8and20 said:
Test C or E 500mg week 1-12
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg ED 6-12
dbol 30mg ED 1-4
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 50mg ed 14 days following last test inj. for 4 weeks

Booya.

Perfect.
 
8and20 said:
Test C or E 500mg week 1-12
Deca 300mg week 1-10
Win 50mg ED 6-12
dbol 30mg ED 1-4
HCG 4-12 500IU ew
PCT: Clomid 50mg ed 14 days following last test inj. for 4 weeks

personally i would use the Var at 50mg ED instead of EOD or stack it with the Winny at 50mg ED for the Var and 50mg EOD for the winny...DBOL is a good addition for a jumpstart and personally i'd steer CLEAR from the clomid and look towards sustain-alpha or something else...
 
splperformance said:
personally i would use the Var at 50mg ED instead of EOD or stack it with the Winny at 50mg ED for the Var and 50mg EOD for the winny...DBOL is a good addition for a jumpstart and personally i'd steer CLEAR from the clomid and look towards sustain-alpha or something else...

for this cycle i really think he needs more than sustain. sustain would be a great addition but bc of the nandrolone it is not a good idea to run nolva. this sort of limits the options.
 
8and20 said:
for this cycle i really think he needs more than sustain. sustain would be a great addition but bc of the nandrolone it is not a good idea to run nolva. this sort of limits the options.

good advice
 
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