27 sets for chest?

[hardrock]

Ok so I'm at the gym yesterday and a guy I know tells me he's been there for 2 1/2 hrs. No biggie he's usually there about 3 hrs. I always figured he did a few body parts in that time. I asked him about it yesterday and he said he only does 1 bp per day. He told me he just finished up doing 7 sets incline bb, 7 sets flat bb, 7 sets decline bb, 3 sets flat db, and finally 3 sets crossovers. Now this guy is in tremendous shape. About 190+ lbs at 5'6 ripped. He's fuckin thick too and very cut.

How the fuck do people get away with this shit. I'm in there more than 1- 1 1/2 hrs or 12-16 sets per bp and I'm toast. Also for someone like this, would they lose alot if they wen't back to 12-16 sets per bp?

 

[The Almighty]

Genetics is the only explanation I can come up with. Pisses me off.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Genetics is the only explanation I can come up with. Pisses me off.

Exactly right. Some people have muscle fiber that can tear easier than others. This guy sounds like a real animal. A little shit but a real animal. Did you ever try anything like what he did, with his 27?

 

[Greek Freak]

I used to do those marathon workouts and actually grew a lot but after doing some research realized that wasnt the best way. Once I go back on again I may try it, because I am pretty sure I have the genetics to train for about an hour and a half at a decent pace without it killing me.

 

[hardrock]

Did you ever try anything like what he did, with his 27?

I used to do 18-20 sets and I think I just don't recover fast enough. I also feel like I'm overtraining.

 

[TPH]

When I was younger that is how I trained... it would be routine to do 25 or more sets per bodypart, and i'm not taking about curls. Heavy presses, squats, deads, negatives, you name it.

As I get older I do feel like I am overtraining somtimes and cut it a bit shorter.

 

[brotheriron]

If you have the genetics you may get away with it. Also the level of intensity will come into play massively.
Its not a clever thing to do, i bet that he'd still grow the same, if not better, doing 6 hard sets in 20 mins, saving 15hrs work a week. Its up to you, but i wouldnt want to be him
M

 

[jdubs952]

Its the law of diminishing returns, he would still look like that if he did 10 sets. Only a few of those sets actually incorporate the overload principle....he may not have the consequences of overtraining and might just be psychological, he's probably doing this for a while and is too stubborn despite all research and logic to cut back on his workouts, but it works for him; however, he would probably have similar results with a lot less sets, and a little more intensity... i mean how intense can you be on your last set of incline knowing that you still have 20 sets left?

 

[BigBarbarian-chargeback]

I would take intensity over quantity any day. I keep in the 10 - 12 set range per body part. I try to limit the total gym time to 1 hour a day. But the intensity is really high. Works great for me. Any more than that I would over train very quickly.

 

[f4209211]

Forget 10-12 sets. I only do 4-6 heavy sets. Rep range between 6-10 and then follow last 2 sets up with stripping method. Just keep going and reducing the weight and do a good 15-20 reps. That absolutely fries my muscle, no matter which one it is. 27 sets is way too much IMO.

 

[Athernigy]

I've dont 25sets on chest (5sets wormup) but I, most certainly, overtrained. All my weights went down and I felt like shit the next two weeks. That's just me though.

-sk

 

[jc21]

a few years ago for 3 months i did one bodypart a day and did 21 working sets on each bodypart. i had lots of gains, but i couldnt do it for a whole year. 3 months was about long enough.

 

[siceone]

Why waste the time do 12 sets chest heavy weight and go home

 

[hitmansb]

My best results have always been from doing 6-8 working sets for chest (not including warm-up). I can't imagine gaining from doing that kind of volume, even with 'assistance'.

 

[jc21]

all of you non believers..i have 2 words for you.

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGER

 

[AnabolicusEroticus]

Using Arnold as your argument for ridiculous volume workouts has no basis. The man was definately genetically gifted, yet his legs always remained underdeveloped compared to his massive torso and arms. I bet he would habe looked better and had more density if he trained using higher intensity, low volume workouts.

If you actually need more than 5 sets per bodypart (sans warmup sets) in any workout, then you're intensity is definately lacking and you're just wasting time. The most impressive lifters need only several sets to absolutely fry a muscle.

 

[jc21]

you are saying you only do 5 working sets on each bodypart...that is just pathetic and lazy.

 

[elite hot topic]

I think you guys are missing the boat here. This man is in the gym for obviouse reasons. He has love for lifting weights. Maybe he is not out for optimal training time. I find even with myself that some times my training sessions are 1 1/2 hrs and others 45 min. (I do have a training partner). Like back in Arnolds day these guys took pride in there lifting. They loved the feel of the weights. They had no gloves and elbow wraps. They had a passion.

Thanks E

 

[jc21]

good post elite hot topic

 

[plornive]

It really depends on how frequently each part is trained. I feel like I can fry my chest with 10 sets (5 flat, 4 incline, 1 dumbell or dips, not including warmups), but I train each part 2-3 times per week. A good way to measure volume is how many sets per week. If sets were never taken to failure, even 30 sets wouldn't overtrain me. I am always on the edge of overtraining, but that is how I progress.

 

[AnabolicusEroticus]

JC, if anyone's the ignorant lazy piece of shit here, it's you. It's quite obvious you lack the intensity and drive to bust your ass to the point of muscular failure or beyond. Weightlifting is anaerobic, whereas you seem to revel in the counterproductive to muscle growth, aerobic workouts.

Yeah, you're a tough guy, cause you perform marathon workouts of 20 plus sets per bodypart. If you were a real badasss, you'd continue past 100 sets. Think about how idiotic that sounds. Is your mind muscle connection so far out of whack, that you can't overload the muscle with far fewer more effective sets? By the looks of it, it seems so. Why don't you start taking up long distance running or something, cause you seem quite suitable for that.

 

[sergio]

Ok so I'm at the gym yesterday and a guy I know tells me he's been there for 2 1/2 hrs. No biggie he's usually there about 3 hrs. I always figured he did a few body parts in that time. I asked him about it yesterday and he said he only does 1 bp per day. He told me he just finished up doing 7 sets incline bb, 7 sets flat bb, 7 sets decline bb, 3 sets flat db, and finally 3 sets crossovers. Now this guy is in tremendous shape. About 190+ lbs at 5'6 ripped. He's fuckin thick too and very cut.

How the fuck do people get away with this shit. I'm in there more than 1- 1 1/2 hrs or 12-16 sets per bp and I'm toast. Also for someone like this, would they lose alot if they wen't back to 12-16 sets per bp?

Anyone who does that many sets per body part and spends 3 hrs. in the gym can't be training with much intensity

 

[jc21]

JC, if anyone's the ignorant lazy piece of shit here, it's you.

yes dude i am very lazy i have absolutly no phsyique what so ever.

reguardless of what you think long workouts do work....you seriously think 5 working sets is good? i would say 12 at the least for big body parts. i just think it is lazyness if you only do 5 sets on a bodypart. i mean damn that is about a 10 minute workout for me including warming up and putting on the weights.