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25mgs of D-Ball enough or not?

DIRTY LUKE

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i'll be doing 400mgs of ethanate i was thinking of throwing in 25mgs of d-ball for first 5 weeks is this sufficent enough to see good results? thks luke
 
I was doing the same dose test e and dbol combined with fina @ 55 mg ed, I'm in my 4th week and up 22 pounds. I stopped dbol in my 3rd week due to gyno symptoms. I just started on nolvadex yesterday in an attempt to shut the gyno down. Nothing serious, and I guess my point is becarefull with dbol at any doseage. And definately have some nolva around.
 
That looks fine under most circumstances. I'm 240lbs and can feel as little as 15mg working and anything over 40 I acan't tell the difference. But then again, we know nothing about you.
 
If it's your first cycle, 25mg day is fine. You could do 30mg if you wanted to, but I wouldn't go beyond that for a first cycle.
 
ducaticorse said:
I was doing the same dose test e and dbol combined with fina @ 55 mg ed, I'm in my 4th week and up 22 pounds. I stopped dbol in my 3rd week due to gyno symptoms. I just started on nolvadex yesterday in an attempt to shut the gyno down. Nothing serious, and I guess my point is becarefull with dbol at any doseage. And definately have some nolva around.

Agree with ducaticorse too.
Dboll is the worst steroid in gyno issues, you must be very carfull at ANY dosage especially if you´re a novice guy. Even if you use nolva that will not assure you will never get gyno. Once I run dboll 25mg/day and thought I was ok about gyno sensibility than changed to 50 mg and two days after i was getting the symptoms.
 
DIRTY LUKE said:
PsychoPikey why you say to stack with eq or winny?

It would depend...how many cycles have you done? It does not sound like you have any. If this is your first then 400 mg/week of test is good, using a low dose of dbol would be fine, but not necessary at all...
 
I am in my 3rd week of running 20mg dbol ed with only 200mg of test cyp a week (20mg nolva ed) and I'm having killer strengh gains along with bulk to go with it; hardly any water retention. I'm 5'9" 225lbs. If 20mg is good for me then I'm sure that 25mg will be fine for you:D
 
DIRTY LUKE said:
PsychoPikey why you say to stack with eq or winny?

i didnt say to stack with anything, i said its fine how it is
keep your cycle simple, and it'll also be cheaper aswell.

there is a limit to how fast your body will put on muscle mass and the extra sides + cost you will get arnt worth the added mass.
 
I recently changed my second cycle plans. I now plan on 20mgs dbols ed for only three weeks into my 500mgs sus cycle. I think its enough
 
If you have a problem w/ insomnia and you plan on taking 20mg of dbol ed for however long, I would take two in the morning and two more around lunch time. I have noticed that by taking two at a time, you get a more noticiable affect and it wares off better at night so you can get your sleep. It will keep me up all night if I take it late in the day.:biggrin:
 
just run the test dude you really dont need the dbol trust me on this one. with a good diet and workout routine you could gain like 20-30 pounds on a first cycle so why spend the money and fuck your body up. learn how you react to gear before cycling.
 
With nolva on-hand, I would go ahead and use the dbol then taper off it and take a break mid-cycle. Then I would use it again toward the end of the cycle while you wait 3 weeks or so after your last shot for the test to clear out, and before you start clomid or whatever. There will be a time a few weeks after the last shot when you will still be suppressed but the exogneous test will be too low and not be enough to keep you from feeling down - thus add the dbol at this time for you last 7-14 days until the long esters clear out. Then you can start recovery.
 
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