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20mg dbol cycle ?

karachi183 said:
let's see how big u r!

I'm 5'11 210 about 12-13%. What are you trying to imply? That I'm not bigger because I don't run dbol only cycles? I'm currently on a test c/winny. I just can't see a reason not to run at least a low dose of test with dbol. Its cheap and only 1 shot per week. It just makes sense.
 
This thread is to help out Hodgey, remember? Not to compare traps. 20mgs will definitely give him size, maybe not monster size, but size nonetheless as long as he's eating and training correctly and taking an AI. Maybe his goals are different than those who aspire to be the hulk. Are there better avenues to get "decent" size without bloat? Obviously there are. He just doesn't know as of yet.
 
toxicsambo said:
This thread is to help out Hodgey, remember? Not to compare traps. 20mgs will definitely give him size, maybe not monster size, but size nonetheless as long as he's eating and training correctly and taking an AI. Maybe his goals are different than those who aspire to be the hulk. Are there better avenues to get "decent" size without bloat? Obviously there are. He just doesn't know as of yet.


I'd go with Tbol only before I went with Dbol only. More keepable gains for most.
 
toxicsambo said:
This thread is to help out Hodgey, remember? Not to compare traps. 20mgs will definitely give him size, maybe not monster size, but size nonetheless as long as he's eating and training correctly and taking an AI. Maybe his goals are different than those who aspire to be the hulk. Are there better avenues to get "decent" size without bloat? Obviously there are. He just doesn't know as of yet.


^^ i agree, i said its a waste imo because i have seen about 5or6 of my bros try dbol only, with higher dosage, all lost almost all off gains even with good pct.. So say they kept 3 lbs, is 3lbs worth the shut down and sides? not to mention stress on the ole liver.. unless you are really at genitic limit that can be done without any aas.. I dont doubt some bros made gains and kept them, but i'd be willing to bet the majority lose most.. jmo
 
stressman13 said:
I'm 5'11 210 about 12-13%. What are you trying to imply? That I'm not bigger because I don't run dbol only cycles? I'm currently on a test c/winny. I just can't see a reason not to run at least a low dose of test with dbol. Its cheap and only 1 shot per week. It just makes sense.

Not trying to imply anything. Alot of guys on the boards are internet bb'ers... I obviously agree that test is good as a base but not everyone needs it and ppl on this site promote running multiple compounds like taking protein shakes when in reality no one knows everyones chemistry. Rome wasn't built in a day and a muscular body isn't going to magically appear in 6 weeks, so when people say dbol only i say go for it and see what happens instead of saying run 500mg of test with 300mg of deca and 40mg a day of dbol and you'll get to where you want to be. People need to slow down especially if it's there first time. IMO once you run test in a cycle you then become dependent on it for all cycles which is fine but what's wrong with delaying that process. I would hate to see 20yr olds on HRT like the 40yr and 50yr olds of today because they read on some chat board that test is a must.
 
littleb said:
^^ i agree, i said its a waste imo because i have seen about 5or6 of my bros try dbol only, with higher dosage, all lost almost all off gains even with good pct.. So say they kept 3 lbs, is 3lbs worth the shut down and sides? not to mention stress on the ole liver.. unless you are really at genitic limit that can be done without any aas.. I dont doubt some bros made gains and kept them, but i'd be willing to bet the majority lose most.. jmo

At the doses i've used i didn't notice any shutdown each time. Used nolva as pct and to this day get morning wood like a teenager. Mind you i haven't gone past 4 weeks but over this past year i've stayed at 175 or so at 5'8 from last years 160-163 range and have been chomping on the same pinkies with wide breaks in between and i still wear the same 32" jeans... So to those who want to run a dbol only research past threads and make the decision for yourself. Good Luck bro either way
 
karachi183 said:
Not trying to imply anything. Alot of guys on the boards are internet bb'ers... I obviously agree that test is good as a base but not everyone needs it and ppl on this site promote running multiple compounds like taking protein shakes when in reality no one knows everyones chemistry. Rome wasn't built in a day and a muscular body isn't going to magically appear in 6 weeks, so when people say dbol only i say go for it and see what happens instead of saying run 500mg of test with 300mg of deca and 40mg a day of dbol and you'll get to where you want to be. People need to slow down especially if it's there first time. IMO once you run test in a cycle you then become dependent on it for all cycles which is fine but what's wrong with delaying that process. I would hate to see 20yr olds on HRT like the 40yr and 50yr olds of today because they read on some chat board that test is a must.

I see what your saying. I also agree with you that a muscular body isn't going to appear in 6 weeks. However, a person who already does not have some base muscle really has no business running any cycle of any kind, especially not a 20 year old. So if a person already has some base muscle, which they most def should if they are considering a cycle there is no reason to not run at least a low dose of test with it. Especially a first timer. I've run into some who don't like test and can get away with deca only cycles, etc ,etc without running test and not have any major problems but these are defintely the exceptions, not the norm (from what I've seen). I see your point, but 99% of the time i still disagree. Dbol isn't some type of workout supplement for a newbie to do just to see some quick results or give him some motivation. Nor is it the answer to getting your shirts to fit tighter for the summer. The answer to that is some real training and real eating. :coffee:
 
start with 20. if you don't see anything, or at the least, feel anything, bump it up. you won't find what works for you by asking these guys. i've seen some of the cycles these herculoids run, pretty funny.
 
stressman13 said:
I see what your saying. I also agree with you that a muscular body isn't going to appear in 6 weeks. However, a person who already does not have some base muscle really has no business running any cycle of any kind, especially not a 20 year old. So if a person already has some base muscle, which they most def should if they are considering a cycle there is no reason to not run at least a low dose of test with it. Especially a first timer. I've run into some who don't like test and can get away with deca only cycles, etc ,etc without running test and not have any major problems but these are defintely the exceptions, not the norm (from what I've seen). I see your point, but 99% of the time i still disagree. Dbol isn't some type of workout supplement for a newbie to do just to see some quick results or give him some motivation. Nor is it the answer to getting your shirts to fit tighter for the summer. The answer to that is some real training and real eating. :coffee:

And like I said I'd much rather go with a Tbol only then Dbol only, but this only my opinion, if your making gains on dbol only and your pleased with it then do your thing.... :coffee:
 
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