2 weeks on var and this is what it did to my lipid profile

[dullboy]

blame your mum and your dad.

 

[bilter]

It has hit your HDL hard.

Strange how I read many posts where people say their lipids have come back good after running Var / Dbol / Winny etc. Is it that some people recover very quicly post cycle or that genetically some bro's can tolerate orals where as others can't?

Be good to hear what the likes of Ulter, Macro, Mr X etc. have to say on this. Bearing in mind that you're running all those lipid control supps I am shocked at your recent test results.

I am thinking that many people get checked post cycle and not during as I did. Given the speed in which it has decreased my HDL I would hope it will retrun to normal jsut as quickly. BUt yes I would like to see what macro, ulter and Mr x have to say on this.

Dullboy, I am actually thanking mum & dad...........look at my precycle lipids

 

[bilter]

bump for more feedback

 

[sigmund]

bump for more feedback

Bro, I've sent Ulter a PM asking for his opinion on this.

 

[bilter]

Bro, I've sent Ulter a PM asking for his opinion on this.

thanks sig . I posted this on his board also. Here is some interesting reading
http://www.anabolicfitness.net/libr...Actions, and clinical applications of AAS.pdf

Apparently, the lipid profile change is alomost unavoidable, is not dose dependant and returns to normal baseline levels in 3 - 5 weeks after discontinuing use.

 

[Mavafanculo]

dude hdl of 26 isnt really horrible - I get into the single digits hdl on var. are you in the US ? the reference ranges mite be different.

best thing you can do while recovering ur hdl (dont worry it comes back up ) is take label dose of kyolic garlic tabs (cardiac formula) - good science that it acts as a substitute super-hdl preventing oxidation of fats and plaque buildup in ur arteries, and carrying away ldl.

to recover (but it wont help u keep it while on)
policosanol
niacin (inositol hexanicotinate - nonflush niacin)
metamucil
olive oil / walnuts
running a few times a week.

1 month should do it

 

[bilter]

dude hdl of 26 isnt really horrible - I get into the single digits hdl on var. are you in the US ? the reference ranges mite be different.

best thing you can do while recovering ur hdl (dont worry it comes back up ) is take label dose of kyolic garlic tabs (cardiac formula) - good science that it acts as a substitute super-hdl preventing oxidation of fats and plaque buildup in ur arteries, and carrying away ldl.

to recover (but it wont help u keep it while on)
policosanol
niacin (inositol hexanicotinate - nonflush niacin)
metamucil
olive oil / walnuts
running a few times a week.

1 month should do it

Yes I am in the US. HDL levels are desired to be over 40. I'll look into the kyolic garlic. thanks for the info. I was also advised to take 1 asperin PD to help avoid legions on the arterial walls that can be caused by poor lipdis (thrombosus???) I suspect it has gone as low as it is going (I hope) and no it is not as bad as some but considering the % drop from baseline it is HUGE

 

[Bobber]

What does lipid levels do?

 

[bilter]

Its used as an indicator for your cardiovascular health and / or risk of developing cardio vascular disiese. Ideally one wants high HDL (good cholesterol) and low LDL (bad cholesterol). A ratio of 4 to one or lower is considered good. If you compare my baseline to recent my cycle has quickly oved me into what they would consider moderate risk as my ratio for total cholesterol to HDL is above 5. It now comes in at 6 where it used to be 2.5...................not a good change

 

[Guvna]

blame your mum and your dad.

for his amazingly good ratios and hdl levels?


Blame the var for his shitty current levels.


Did you take policosanol and such from the beginning or did you you just start them after you found your results?