2 dbol questions, come on help me out here...

[40butpumpin]

How can dbol be cycled year round at a dose of say 20mg ed? I mean would something like 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off be too much, again with 20mg ed?

Also, at 20mg ed, is 8 weeks straight considered liver suicide?

 

[chanmanfoo]

dont know about cycling it year round but 20mg ed for eight weeks is much safer than most people think. a healthy person not consuming any other liver toxic meds or alcohol could sustain dbol at much longer durations. good luck bro
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[DaddyX]

i dont like the idea of dbol "year round" or however u mentioned, BUT , like chanmanfoo said dbol can be consumed at even higher doses than 20 mgs ed for 8 weeks. in a week or so i am going to use it for 6 weeks at 40 mgs along with prop at 100 mgs eod. ask slobberknocker - hes been on dbol for months and hes all good

 

[liftsiron]

D-bol is quite safe at 20mg a day for eight weeks. Four weeks on four off at 20mg a day should be safe. But I doubt that htpa function would restore in the off peroid, also I would recommend blood tests. I remember that you have some heart and or blood pressure concerns, I think that anavar may be the optimal choice for what your thinking of doing. If you go the low dose d-bol route I suggest that you take all 20mg first thing in the morning to minimize effects to htpa.

 

[Stillgoing]

I believe 40 is on HRT, so, HPTA is not an issue. The issue would be toxicity.

40, don't know if this is helpful, but, my first cycle was from a doctor that would put you on dbol & give you one shot of deca per month. He would let you stay on the program indefinitely, with a month off every so often. I don't recall the dosage, but, probably 20mg ED. I was on it for 3-4 months and others I knew for much longer.

 

[Stillgoing]

40 - would this be a replacement for test therapy, or a supplement to?

 

[40butpumpin]

Thanks *everyone* for your inputs, they were all helpful as well as consistent. That's always nice, no controversy.

liftsiron, Stillgoing is correct, I'm on for life with HRT so hpta isn't an issue and toxicity is indeed my main concern. But you are also correct in that I am also always concerned if something is messing with my heart rate and/or blood pressure so they are of concern also. Which, interestingly, is why I never bothered with dbol. I've always heard that at the effective dose, it caused excessive water retention and, therefore, increased blood pressure. But in fact I have been on 20mg ed in divided doses and have definitely experienced a noticible strength increase without *any* water retention. The bottom line so far is I'm loving the stuff. Now I don't know what 30, 40 or 50mg ed would do to me but I'm quite content with the 20mg ed. Var is something that I'm looking at also bro. Thanks brother for your post, it is very helpful to say the least.

Stillgoing, I'm glad you told me about that bro because I have heard of it being used medically for hypogonadism at one time. This information is thrilling considering how I've responded to the dbol. Just as an additional note I suffer from low back pain that I live with everyday, however, it appears that dbol has somehow provided some strength specifically to that region of my body. I dunno if it's my imagination or what but it sure seems that way. In any case your post is *very* encouraging. Yes, the dbol would be an addition to the 200mg test per week.

 

[liftsiron]

40but, I got noticeable BP increases with 20 to 25 mg of d-bol a day, I was using no anti e's at the time. I have decided not to risk further use. I do not get any increases in BP or any noticeable bad sides from 25mg daily of oxafort anavar, but I get really strong and seem to be adding lean mass slowly but surely. Please keep us updated on your results. I'm also on HRT so htpa is not an issue for me either.