1st week on winny and deca, how should i feel?

[capn]

doing 50mg ED winny and 400mg of deca EW

Feel a little tired in the mornings when I get up to do my cardio, i usually have more energy.

I was doing great naturally but I couldn't get that last few % bf to go down, so I started this cycle this week.

On just these 2 steriods, how soon before I see / feel results?

Please only respond if you have actually done this cycle before.

 

[JKurz1]

Gewd I hope oyu have a solid pCT in the works...........

 

[capn]

Why? Its not like i'm doing 1000 mg of test every week?

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

The deca is whats going to shut you down. Test is an easy recovery (at least for me) compared to deca. But, I do love this cycle. I have done it a few times and got strong as hell and had great hardness and vascularity. This is a good combo imo. Just be prepared for a tough recovery. Have your PCT ready and you should keep the majority of your gains. I do question your objective a bit though. These compounds are not going to cause you to lose bodyfat. That is done through diet and to a lesser degree, cardio. You will however be able to maintain more of the mass you have while on a low calorie diet with this cycle though. Just make sure you drop those cals or you won't see the fat loss you're hoping for. As for the lathargy, I experience the same thing when I take winnie. The deca hasn't had enough time to do anything to/for you but the winnie gets going pretty quick. I usually feel a little sluggish (not terrible though) my first 2 weeks of winnie then when the deca kicks in I get really happy and upbeat. The overall sense of well being can't be beat.

 

[capn]

thanks. suggestions for PCT?

 

[JKurz1]

The deca is whats going to shut you down. Test is an easy recovery (at least for me) compared to deca. But, I do love this cycle. I have done it a few times and got strong as hell and had great hardness and vascularity. This is a good combo imo. Just be prepared for a tough recovery. Have your PCT ready and you should keep the majority of your gains. I do question your objective a bit though. These compounds are not going to cause you to lose bodyfat. That is done through diet and to a lesser degree, cardio. You will however be able to maintain more of the mass you have while on a low calorie diet with this cycle though. Just make sure you drop those cals or you won't see the fat loss you're hoping for. As for the lathargy, I experience the same thing when I take winnie. The deca hasn't had enough time to do anything to/for you but the winnie gets going pretty quick. I usually feel a little sluggish (not terrible though) my first 2 weeks of winnie then when the deca kicks in I get really happy and upbeat. The overall sense of well being can't be beat.

 

[nydj66]

thanks. suggestions for PCT?

40mg/day of nolvadex for 3 weeks, starting 3 weeks after last deca shot (assuming winny has ceased also).

 

[clarkg4867]

I have never done winny but I have done deca300 and when I was on that it made me feel tired and I wasn't as motivated as I was with just test. And winny does help you lose fat and rip up. make sure you are on the right type of diet and stay consistent with the cardio.

 

[capn]

40mg/day of nolvadex for 3 weeks, starting 3 weeks after last deca shot (assuming winny has ceased also).

is nolva sold in Mexico?

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

Yes it is, over the counter at almost all farmacias. have you considered running a low dose of test every week to avoid shut down? also nolva pct for deca only cycle doesnt sound like a good idea to me, id run clomid and nolva together. nolva wont stop any progesterone.

 

[liquidmuscle]

is this your first time using either? i notice strength w/winny usually 2 wks in and see gains from deca 4wks in

 

[capn]

Thanks for the info on buying Nolva.

I have run deca twice before, but this is my first time with Winny. I'm feeling much better this afternoon than I was this morning when I woke up. In fact after my cardio this morning I have actually almost felt "high", a great sense of well-being, I guess.
This is my 4th day. I guess my body was just adjusting to the stuff. I'll see how I feel tomorrow morning. thx guys

 

[BikePower]

I'm on a Deca/Winny cycle myself... But at half your dose since I'm a light guy that's looking for strenght without adding too much weight... Since I'm a cyclist, I don't want to put on too much weight, just add some strength...

The first few days I didn't feel anything... After that I could feel I was recuperating from a workout a lot faster... The following week, I noticed some strength gains but not a lot... The week after that was when I first noticed some serious strength gains! I'm on my fifth week now and feel great... I have put on some weight, but I guess most of it is water... So far I feel happy with my cycle... Strength has gone up and that was what I was looking for...

I have clomid for after my cycle, and also Nolva which I don't think I need so far...

Next cycle will be Deca combined with EQ because of the increase in red blood cell count...