1st Oral-only Cycle

[curious]

I recently asked about splitting Anadrol-50 tabs. Thanks to all who answered, especially those warning me away from “a-bombs,” at least not for my first cycle.

I’ll heed yr warnings, but what then is a good first time stack/cycle for growing mass safely? Must be orals, as in the country where I live, needles are extremely hard to get and very risky if I get caught with them. Not so much the juice itself.

I’ve checked and found this recommended more than once:

WK—ANAVAR – WINSTROL -- CLOMID
1) 30mg ---------- 40mg
2) 30 ------------- 40
3) 30 ------------- 40
4) 30 ------------- 40
5) 30 ------------- 40
6) 30 ------------- 40
7) 30
8) 30
9) -----------------------------------50mg
10) ---------------------------------50mg

Is it OK to add (substitute?) d-bol or Andriol to this, and if so, how? Also, should I not also be taking an anti-estrogen such as Arimidex or Nolvadex? (Cost is not a factor. I want to do it right for my first time.)

In preparation for my mistaken plans to try Anadrol, I’ve stocked up on Milk Thistle, Evening Primrose, and Cranberry extract to protect my liver and kidney. Anything else I should be taking?

Everyone was great in responding when I was about to go down the wrong path. I would be grateful if you could kindly respond again now that I am trying to find the right path.

 

[spentagn]

you won't be getting a whole lot of mass off that cycle.

 

[curious]

Thank you spentagn

Dear spentagn:

Thanks for the heads-up. When you say that I will not be getting much mass off this cycle, is that because it is orals-only. Or is there some other oral that I should add or substitute (other than Anadrol) that will make me grow? Any suggestions on a decent stack/cycle?

Also, if I did go with what I originally suggested, what would I be able to expect, even if not much mass?

 

[spentagn]

lot's of strength, lot's of joint pain. even with milk thistle and cranberry, most likely some kidney pain. dbol will give you size, but lots of water as well. try to get an injectable if possible, but if not, best of luck.

 

[gotmilk]

30mgs of Anavar is a waste of money. 50mg minimum.

I would use d-bol first. The Anavar and Winstrol will help reduce the bloat...aka..extracellular fluid.

Are you scared of needles? Just curious why you are going for all tabs. If you want the best bang for your buck..you need to graduate to injectibles. IMO

 

[CHAOS5000]

I'm going to bump this guy up since I've also been trying to help him on another board. He made posts earlier about the needleless BIOJECT thing, so I honestly believe that for once this isn't just a fear of needles. Japan can be kind of wacky when it comes to this. I recommended that he add in some fina by DMSO or orally. I know this is HERESY and I would never do anything but shoot it, but I think it's a viable option in his case. He's not going to get huge, but he'll see SOME results. Anymore opinions?

 

[notpuff]

im a lil out of it today corect me if im wrong but isnt 1000mg = 1 gram