1st cycle what you guys think?

[ddp08]

Hi guys this is my plan for a first cycle let me no what you think?

week 1 to 10 test e 250mg
week 1 to 10 deca 200mg

pct week 12 to 14 i will have clomid and hcg injections to take.
Also i will have nolva on hand incase of gyno or should i just run it all the way through the cycle?

I no it doesn't seem alot of test but i thought with a first cycle id through some deca in there to keep me a bit leaner and defined and keep build up of estrogen to a minimum.
Has anyone done a cycle like this before and did they gain well off it? Any imput on this cycle will be appreciated. thanks

 

[needtogetaas]

Hi guys this is my plan for a first cycle let me no what you think?

week 1 to 10 test e 250mg
week 1 to 10 deca 200mg

pct week 12 to 14 i will have clomid and hcg injections to take.
Also i will have nolva on hand incase of gyno or should i just run it all the way through the cycle?

I no it doesn't seem alot of test but i thought with a first cycle id through some deca in there to keep me a bit leaner and defined and keep build up of estrogen to a minimum.
Has anyone done a cycle like this before and did they gain well off it? Any imput on this cycle will be appreciated. thanks

You need to do more research my friend. Never use nolva with deca. Also nolva is not the best for on cycle estrogen problems anyway. It can cause estrogen rebound as estrogen is not lowered but blocked.

A first cycle should be just test anyway. You would also want to have dostinex on hand because deca causes a different type of gyno (progesterone/prolactin gyno) High levels of prog/pro can also cause ED and other problems during the cycle too. Looks like you do not have that aspect covered at all.

Use hcg 500ius ew threw out the cycle and then clomid 50mg ed with sustain alpha ed for pct. Anytime you need help putting together a cycle feel free to ask me for help and advice bro. Welcome to ef . I gave you a free plat.

 

[ddp08]

Cool mate cheers. My first thought s were to do just a test cycle on its own but my friend kept sayin through some deca in. So what if i did a cycle of test at 500mg a week for 10 weeks? Im wanting to keep this cycle nice and simple and it seems to me throwin the deca in complicates things. Would nolva be ok to run with a test cycle all the way through?

 

[needtogetaas]

Cool mate cheers. My first thought s were to do just a test cycle on its own but my friend kept sayin through some deca in. So what if i did a cycle of test at 500mg a week for 10 weeks? Im wanting to keep this cycle nice and simple and it seems to me throwin the deca in complicates things. Would nolva be ok to run with a test cycle all the way through?

And this is where all the problems start. Its good you used your own brain though and came to a site like elitefitness.com. Good for you bro you are the smart one.

Yes a plan and simple test cycle would be much better and you will get bad ass gains. No need at all for the deca right now man. It would just complicate things for you and not add much more gains at all at your level.

Weeks
1-10 test-e 250mg twice a week M/T shots
4-10 hcg 500iu's every week
10-16 clomid 50mg ed . Trust me add some Sustain Alpha for the first 4 weeks of this.

Keep the nolva and do not run it during the cycle. No matter what it sucks. Get some arimadex and or letro from rxhealthdrugs.com This works much better for a on cycle Ai.

Yes the nolva can work though if you just have to use that. But do not use it unless you find you need it.

 

[shrimp poboy]

What he said^^^^^^^^

 

[needtogetaas]

What he said^^^^^^^^

What he said about what the other guy said^^^^^^

 

[ddp08]

I like the look of that cycle. keeps it simple just what i want for a first cycle. so for pct would i start the clomid on week 12 but start the sustain alpha straight after the cycle? Dont think ive heard of the sustain alpha, whats the benefits of that? Ill try and get hold of some letro or armidex and should i run this all the way through the cycle or just use it if i get any gyno symptons?

 

[Makavelli]

You can use deca with the test, but I would bump the test up to 500 mgs/wk.