1st cycle revised

[brahma_bull]

After some more research and reading other threads i've come up with a new 1st cycle, shood be an ass kicker.

15 weeker

Week 1-6 40mg Dianbol ed
Week 1-4 800mg EQ
Week 7-15 4-500mg EQ
Week 8-15 50mg Winny ed

PCT

Starting 2 weeks after last shot of EQ
Week 17-21 20mg nolva ed

Dianabol should be out of my system on week 7(half life is 3-6 hours) giving me a break until i start the winny on week 8.

Tyler's and multi's throughout.

Thoughts?

 

[Throw2Far]

IMO you are running the dbol too long...

 

[chefbone]

At 40mg ed with the d-bol it's not too long, but I would advise doing it for 4weeks at 50. Everything else is spot on. Congratulations!!!!

 

[brahma_bull]

At 40mg ed with the d-bol it's not too long, but I would advise doing it for 4weeks at 50. Everything else is spot on. Congratulations!!!!

Thanks, trying to hone this a much as possible so i get max results.

 

[brahma_bull]

New version would look like this

Week 1-4 50mg Dbol ed/800mg EQ
Week 5-7 400mg EQ
Week 8-15 50mg Winny ed/400mg EQ

Week 17-20 20mg nolva ed

 

[Throw2Far]

Nolvadex competes for estrogen receptor site, clomid reduces estrogen. For PCT I prefer clomid because it gets your estrogen levels back to normal and your test production back up. Go Clomid.

Have you considered HCG on that long of a cycle?

 

[gettinkrunkd]

After some more research and reading other threads i've come up with a new 1st cycle, shood be an ass kicker.

15 weeker

Week 1-6 40mg Dianbol ed
Week 1-4 800mg EQ
Week 7-15 4-500mg EQ
Week 8-15 50mg Winny ed

PCT

Starting 2 weeks after last shot of EQ
Week 17-21 20mg nolva ed

Dianabol should be out of my system on week 7(half life is 3-6 hours) giving me a break until i start the winny on week 8.

Tyler's and multi's throughout.

Thoughts?

id keep it easy if its your first bro, cause you dont know how your bodies gonna react to any of those drugs.

 

[krishna]

Nolva gets your test production back too. Why not just test for a first cycle?

 

[brahma_bull]

Nolvadex competes for estrogen receptor site, clomid reduces estrogen. For PCT I prefer clomid because it gets your estrogen levels back to normal and your test production back up. Go Clomid.

Have you considered HCG on that long of a cycle?

As a newb, all the info i have is from reading/research but nolva seems to be preferred by most people over clomid. Also the possible negative sides of clomid worry me a bit. I was trying to design a cycle where ancillaries would be minimum. EQ and Winny don't aromatize very much so i should be ok there, dbol is another question though since it aromatizes very heavily. I shortened it so i'll be off the Dbol at the end of week 4 and on EQ only for another 3 weeks, followed by EQ winny. If what i've read is accurate then testicular atrophy should be minimum so i didn't think HCG would be needed.

 

[brahma_bull]

id keep it easy if its your first bro, cause you dont know how your bodies gonna react to any of those drugs.

I'm wondering about that myself, i'll stop of course i if have a bad reaction. I shortened the dbol to weeks 1-4 instead of 1-6, which means it will be out of my system by the 1st day of week 5.

 

[brahma_bull]

Nolva gets your test production back too. Why not just test for a first cycle?

I thought about that and the first cycle i designed was EQ/Test Enth, but i'm worried about gyno, so i thought i'd try and play it a little safer for the 1st one.

 

[brahma_bull]

Brands i'll be using if everything works out right are BD Boldabol, BD Stanabol (orals) and Naposim (orals) I've heard good things about BD gear and Naposim.

 

[krishna]

I thought about that and the first cycle i designed was EQ/Test Enth, but i'm worried about gyno, so i thought i'd try and play it a little safer for the 1st one.

If you have nolva then there isn't much worry for gyno. I wouldn't count out HCG either because you will definitely be shut down after 15 weeks.

 

[brahma_bull]

If you have nolva then there isn't much worry for gyno. I wouldn't count out HCG either because you will definitely be shut down after 15 weeks.

So what 250IU HCG every week? Nolva still for PCT only?

 

[krishna]

I'd do 500 iu's 2x a week for 3 weeks midcycle, and then 1000iu's 3 times a week for 2-3 weeks post cycle. Just make sure you run the nolva two weeks past the HCG.

 

[ruggermu]

Naps are ver potent you'll like them, I would advise getting L-dex or something for bloat though, they blew me up like a beach ball. 50 mg is honestly more than you'll need I think first run, but it won't hurt if you got em take em.