1st Cycle Oxandrovar Help

[gdog707]

I'm thinking of doing a cycle with Oxandrovar and have basically just gotten a bit more confused about the whole process reading around here.

So, I was planning on following the Ox cycle over on evolutionary (linked on MyProHs site) and would love some input as to that being a decent starting point.

Me:
43 yrs
190 lbs
~ 17% bf
Been working out consistently (meaning something daily) since May & currently in week 7 of Gethins 12 week program.

Aside from the Ox cycle linked above (which I'm not taking yet) I am taking the stuff below:
Orange Triad
Fish Oil
Creatine
BCAAs
MP Assault pre-workout

Thanks in advance for your wisdom!

 

[TheKid7]

Soo what is your question? The thread topic asked for help

 

[gdog707]

The question was kinda hidden in the second sentence. Is that Ox cycle a good (complete) 1st cycle?

Reading through all of the threads here I haven't actually come across one as simple as the one outlined in that link that I couldn't actually link. I'll type out what's there. Also, I guess I'm curious what would happen after week 16 in this scenario.

Thanks Again!

*Week 1-6: Step 1: Burst Cycle*

OxandroVar
2 caps/day (1 am/1 pre-workout)

Cardarine (GW-501516)
20mgs/day (10mgs AM/10 mgs PM)

N2Guard
2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM


*Week 7-9: Step 2: Mini PCT*

HCGenerate
2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM

Cardarine (GW-501516)
20mgs/day (10mgs AM/10 mgs PM)

N2Guard
2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM


*Week 10-11: Step 3: Bridge*

Cardarine (GW-501516)
20mgs/day (10mgs AM/10 mgs PM)

N2Guard
2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM


*Week 12-16: Step 5: Cruise Cycle*

HCGenerate ES
2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM

Ostarine (MK-2866)
25mgs/day (12.5mgs AM/12.5 mgs PM)

N2Guard
2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

 

[gdog707]

Ahh, after posting that last reply I saw a similar threads link with a thread by WolfePackAlpha regarding this same stack.... Doh...

 

[brazilbeast]

Throw in some Test E, at 43yo i'd assume you could benefit greatly with it.

 

[RickRock13]

You need a full PCT after Oxandrovar, not a mini PCT. Add some Clomid and aromasin to that

 

[gdog707]

You need a full PCT after Oxandrovar, not a mini PCT. Add some Clomid and aromasin to that

A bit new to the terminology... When you say full PCT, do you mean longer or same time frame just adding Clomid & Aromasin? And I'm guessing you mean LiquiClom & LiquiAromas? And how much?

Thanks!

 

[dylangemelli]

I'm thinking of doing a cycle with Oxandrovar and have basically just gotten a bit more confused about the whole process reading around here.

So, I was planning on following the Ox cycle over on evolutionary (linked on MyProHs site) and would love some input as to that being a decent starting point.

Me:
43 yrs
190 lbs
~ 17% bf
Been working out consistently (meaning something daily) since May & currently in week 7 of Gethins 12 week program.

Aside from the Ox cycle linked above (which I'm not taking yet) I am taking the stuff below:
Orange Triad
Fish Oil
Creatine
BCAAs
MP Assault pre-workout

Thanks in advance for your wisdom!

oxandrovar is an excellent starting cycle but your body fat is still a bit high brother... the most effective way to run this would be to stack it with sarms and run oxandrovar on the back end... by doing so, not only are you enhancing your cycle to the highest extent but your allowing yourself to get into the optimal body fat range by the time you start oxandrovar... here is a full cycle layout and the links on where to get everything...

read my articles on sarms at Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 “liquidex” Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding

1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
7-12 oxandrovar 2 caps a day The #1 Supplier of Pro-Hormones - MyProH.com

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[gdog707]

Yes, the BF is too high! It was at 24% in May, been working hard.

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes, the BF is too high! It was at 24% in May, been working hard.

thats excellent work bro... you are very close now... just keep working hard, keep consistent and disciplined with your diet and training and you will continue to make the progress... run the cycle as i have laid it out for you and you will be very happy with the results...

 

[hurricane]

Yes, the BF is too high! It was at 24% in May, been working hard.

at 24% try the sarms triple stack..it it suited better for you at this point in time

or get on gw/osta.. gw is non supressive and osta will help hold muscle in a calorie restrictions and abundant cardio conditions.. Very slight supression..

more i think of it. gw/osta is the way to go for you bro,.

 

[gymrat827]

oxandrovar is an excellent starting cycle but your body fat is still a bit high brother... the most effective way to run this would be to stack it with sarms and run oxandrovar on the back end... by doing so, not only are you enhancing your cycle to the highest extent but your allowing yourself to get into the optimal body fat range by the time you start oxandrovar... here is a full cycle layout and the links on where to get everything...

read my articles on sarms at Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 “liquidex” Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding

1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
7-12 oxandrovar 2 caps a day The #1 Supplier of Pro-Hormones - MyProH.com

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

i would pretty much follow this exactly. Dylan knows his sh!t and has helped me a few times.

Getthing tha BF level down before you start will make a world of difference. Getting the serm's into pct will really really help bring you back and make sure your new muscle stays put.

 

[gdog707]

So if I did the math right, that's about $2k in supplements for that 16 week cycle?

 

[gdog707]

oops dbl post

 

[gdog707]

at 24% try the sarms triple stack..it it suited better for you at this point in time

or get on gw/osta.. gw is non supressive and osta will help hold muscle in a calorie restrictions and abundant cardio conditions.. Very slight supression..

more i think of it. gw/osta is the way to go for you bro,.

Just a bit of clarification, I'm at about 17% bf now... Was 24% back in May

 

[gdog707]

Just a couple more questions:

1: Should I continue to eat at a deficit during this cycle? I've used a few different calcs and have my macros dialed in at about a 10% deficit now.
2: What's the availability/shipping like with these suppliers? I'd prefer not to buy 16 weeks worth up front but also don't want to reach a point where I don't have the PCT stuff, etc when I need it... guessing that would be bad.

 

[RickRock13]

Just a couple more questions:

1: Should I continue to eat at a deficit during this cycle? I've used a few different calcs and have my macros dialed in at about a 10% deficit now.
2: What's the availability/shipping like with these suppliers? I'd prefer not to buy 16 weeks worth up front but also don't want to reach a point where I don't have the PCT stuff, etc when I need it... guessing that would be bad.

1) if your goal is to primarily lose fat with lean mass and strength being secondary, stay in a slight defecit. If you want more of a recomp, you could eat around maintenance and add in a decent amount of cardio for both lean mass and fat loss.

2) the companies mentioned have very fast delivery times. AG Guys, Sarms1, n2bm, and myproh all have very fast shipping which is usually no more than 3-4 business days after an order is made. However, I would strongly recommend having everything on hand before starting the cycle

 

[meathead96]

I would go with Dylan's advice on this one. He's an expert on these compounds.

 

[hurricane]

Just a bit of clarification, I'm at about 17% bf now... Was 24% back in May

you can use the triple stack Or if you only want to buy 2 products go with osta/gw

 

[25homes]

Oxandavar is awesome

 

[gdog707]

Was getting everything in place to start and got measured today. The last measurement I had was August 21st and I was just over 18% bf, today I came in at 15.6%.

So, I was wondering if I should hold off until I kinda plateau or still go for it.

 

[hurricane]

Was getting everything in place to start and got measured today. The last measurement I had was August 21st and I was just over 18% bf, today I came in at 15.6%.

So, I was wondering if I should hold off until I kinda plateau or still go for it.

you can use a triple stack at the percentage and it will only speed up the process.

 

[dylangemelli]

Was getting everything in place to start and got measured today. The last measurement I had was August 21st and I was just over 18% bf, today I came in at 15.6%.

So, I was wondering if I should hold off until I kinda plateau or still go for it.

have you decided what you want to do yet? i would still get a bit lower so you can really get everything out of the cycle... here would be an excellent way to run this cycle so you can be in the right condition when its time to start oxandrovar...


1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 “liquidex” www.n2bm.com

1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
7-12 oxandrovar 2 caps a day The #1 Supplier of Pro-Hormones - MyProH.com

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[RickRock13]

It's probably a good idea to drop that bodyfat just a tad more before starting. You will get better results from your cycle that way