1st cycle advice

[avalasia]

Hey all,

Im 27, 185cms and 85kgs (sorry but from Australia metric system) have been training for 4 years both lifting and martial arts. Thought I would get the stats out of the way.

I am looking to taking my first cycle and after countless hours of research I am pretty confided in my findings but would feel better running it by some more experienced users on the forum.

I plan on taking test prop @ 100mg eod for 9 weeks. I also have some deca but don't plan on using it on my first cycle, thinking of just playing it safe with test to see how my body reacts. I have arimidex on hand and plan on taking 0.25mg e3d to keep any gyno side effects at bay.

I have nolvadex for PCT which I plan on dosing at 20mg per day over a 4 week period.

Please feel free to comment and let me know if I'm on the right track or if you think changes need to be made.

 

[thebigoz]

Cycle is fine in terms of dosages. Could use Test-E so you don't have to pin so often on your first cylce...up to you. 9 weeks is fine also.

You need a real PCT though. Nolva is not a PCT in itself. Add something like Unleashed/Post-Cycle to the mix. DEFINITELY get some HCGenerate if you're not planning on running HCG mid cycle.

 

[Judo Tom]

Cycle is fine in terms of dosages. Could use Test-E so you don't have to pin so often on your first cylce...up to you. 9 weeks is fine also.

You need a real PCT though. Nolva is not a PCT in itself. Add something like Unleashed/Post-Cycle to the mix. DEFINITELY get some HCGenerate if you're not planning on running HCG mid cycle.

I agree. Cycle looks good but Nolva is not the best pct.

Make sure you have everything in hand before you start your cycle. Also make sure you plan your diet out properly before you start.

 

[avalasia]

I can get my hands on some clomid as well as the nolvadex, would this be any better?

 

[Judo Tom]

nope. worse imo.

most of us around here now recommend otc products for ptc like formastanzol, post cycle and unleashed.

 

[IceIzNoble]

Yeah, those days of Clomid and Nolva are gone, HCGenerate, Post cycle / Unleashed is the new PCT. Does the job much better to.

IcE

 

[zedhed]

Hey bro pinning EOD for 9 weeks kinda sucks. You would be better to go with Test E or Test C. Also for your PCT go here and read this. Then post up what you come up with.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/drugs-dont-work-752617.html

 

[avalasia]

Going with prop due to less bloat and water retention, I know the pining eod can and will be a pain in the ass but I have it now.

In regards to the PCT tell me your thoughts
- have nolvadex
- will use post cycle / unleashed
- will also use bridge to maintain gains.

Should this be sufficient?

 

[Judo Tom]

imo the bloat/water retention thing is a myth or just a personal reaction. I bloat way less on long esters???

anyway prop is fine if you can handle the injects.

that pct looks better. just run the nolva very low maybe 20/10/10/10 mg per week

Dont take the deca yet. save it.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Props great my fav test lots less bloat than Eth / Cyp no myth .

Save Adex until you need it if you get sides start it then .

Nolva is a good start 40/40/20/20 but you could use more Unleash is fine and I have use clomid combo and recovered every time, in AUS if that's all you can get use it @ 50 Ed 3wks


Brad.