Look, a lot of juice heads here bitch and shiz on the prowhoremone industry, but I have to say, from personal experience, it works, and it works well. I have used mag-10 and 1-ad-extreme in the past before I started on the JuiCE. I had great gains, but of course, nothing compaired to the real shiz. Anyhow, It works, cycle on and off -2 weeks at a time and you'll be good to go. Of course, the real stuff is much better, but I did manage to buy some delta 1-ad- cyp IM before they sold out over at synergy. Also, I think synergy still has some orals left = which I used for 2 weeks (15$) and it worked well.