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19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione

dmc777

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Yes I know...Tren-tfo and 1-T Tren. So, Needto and Eric...could you guys explain the A/A ration and conversion rate of this compound? I remember Needto saying one time that the conversion rate was 5% I believe and that you thought that was high. What exactly does conversion rate mean? Does it mean that only 5% converts to the trenbolone like compound and the rest is converted to waste?
 
TTT again....Also, how bad would you guys say this product shuts you down at say 90mg daily for 4 weeks? I'm trying to figure out if the side effects out weigh the benefits.
 
does not shut you down hard. I stacked 6 weeks of 90mg per day with 30mg havoc for 4 weeks and recovery was a walk in the park.
 
Its not a hard recovery. Also its more like 6.5% conversion to target hormone. I think it people should also know that the compound is also active on its own and has direct effects on the receptors. The topical has about a 10-12% conversion rate and also some added other stuff to it. twice the price but also twice the conversion.

Yes this means 6.5 % converts to the active hormone. In other words you will see a 6.5 % increase to the body’s available hormone supply of the target hormone.
 
Its not a hard recovery. Also its more like 6.5% conversion to target hormone. I think it people should also know that the compound is also active on its own and has direct effects on the receptors. The topical has about a 10-12% conversion rate and also some added other stuff to it. twice the price but also twice the conversion.

Yes this means 6.5 % converts to the active hormone. In other words you will see a 6.5 % increase to the body’s available hormone supply of the target hormone.

Thanks Needto I've always been confused about this. Also, did you get my pm about the Dermacrine? Not interested?
 
I have been taking a supplement with 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and I just took a urine drug test and tested positive for Nandrolone. I asked people around the gym and was told this supplement would show me positive for that steriod. I am wondering if that is true.
 
I have been taking a supplement with 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and I just took a urine drug test and tested positive for Nandrolone. I asked people around the gym and was told this supplement would show me positive for that steriod. I am wondering if that is true.

I believe BigCat saying this would convert to 9-unsaturated nandrolone.

Not to mention I remember hearing about this guy that took 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione and took a urine test and it showed positive for nandrolone. He asked a few guys around the gym and this was confirmed :p

I mean, you pretty much answered your own question. What were you getting urine tested for that was so inclusive?
 
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