Yes I know...Tren-tfo and 1-T Tren. So, Needto and Eric...could you guys explain the A/A ration and conversion rate of this compound? I remember Needto saying one time that the conversion rate was 5% I believe and that you thought that was high. What exactly does conversion rate mean? Does it mean that only 5% converts to the trenbolone like compound and the rest is converted to waste?